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From: spudnik on 26 May 2010 15:48 that is not an "image of a photon," but an "artist's impression" of some heuristic statement by a theoretician (which is as much status as any of us can have, hereinat). you continue to not realize, although it is quite common amongst all "photonics" workers, naturally, that the wave & particel are merely mathematical duals, not that the object in question is both at the same time, or neccesarily both at different times. > I am not saying a photon 'particle' exists in the sense of Newton. I > am saying the photon 'particle' occupies a very small region of the > wave. The photon 'particle' may very well occupy a very small region > of the wave itself. > http://superstruny.aspweb.cz/images/fyzika/foton.gif thusNso: Death to the lightconeheads; long-live Minkowsksi! thusNso: "real-valued time" is why, we have quaternions; it's the "scalar" in Hamilton's lingo of vectors. now, you mentioned tensors, and that is apropos, because it is used for stress & strain, which are clearly irrereversible; perhaps, that is one of the first math-physics examples of it. thusNso: I haven't read _Disquisitiones_ in Latin, either, but there are good translations & it is highly recommended by the LaRouchies ... they should put it on their website, like they have *Les OEuvres du Fermatttt*, but you can look at some cool tutorials, in the meantime, at wlym.com. thusNso: I never read a word about Palin's hubbie's Seccesh "movement" in the Liberal Media (Owned by consWervatives) and that is sort-of the issue in AZ. I'm all for kids whose parents managed to sneak across the border & give birth, but I was taken aback by the "sense of entitlement" that the older kids have, about college (the DREAM Act; I stated to a group of them, that crossing the border is essentially a Mexican "rite of passage," and it is certainly not very dangerous as a proper hike, if you check the FAQs and maps & so forth from the Mexican goment (and those advocacy/ haven groups in the USA). well, it's either that or college *in* Mexico, or you'll probably be made to join a gang. La Raza d'Atzlan are openly racist, not just by their title; at least, that's the impression that I got, attending one of their meetings at UCLA, two or three years ago -- it's in their God-am constitution. of course, teh real problem is "free trade," and this is already here to roost; the little spill in the Gulf is being used by British Petroleum -- which is also the #1 driller in the Alaska North Slope, that Ted Palin works for -- to creata an "outsourcing" mandate to solve the problem, because we can't do it with our post-industrial cargo cult. well, screw it; read LaRouche, if you want to know the history with Lincoln and his "Spot Resolutions;" Cinco de Mayo should be a pan-american holiday! thusNso: Dear AG candidate Kelly; no change from Jerry Brown's '69 "platform," eh? it is intolerably stupid, insofar as we do need "fossilized fuels TM (sik)," to not get our share from our own "reserves." really, though, it is merely biomass, and the techniques have progressed since '69. Dubya's bro's ban offshore of Florida (and Louisiana) seemed like a tactical maneuver to support the oilcos' scarcity programme in our state. (why O why O why do folks believe, that the oilcos did not support the Kyoto Protoccol, which was just another cap'n'trade "free trade" nostrum, that Dubya'd have undoubtdely signed, if he had been told?) British Petroleum, the balls-out advocate of cap'n'trade, "Beyond Petroleum," is also the biggest company in the Alaska North Slope -- doesn't any body wonder, why no-one asked Palin about her BP-employed hubbie, and his Seccesionist ideals? one must take into consideration, with all of the hype about it, that oil comes out of the ground underwater in "seeps," under pressure. so, how much would come out, if BP et al ad vomitorium were not pumping like crazy? Waxman's current cap'n'trade bill just mandatorizes the huge, voluntary cap'n'trade since 2003 -- tens of billions in hedging per annum. what the Liberal Media (Ownwd by consWervative) don't talk about, is that he brought the first cap'n'trade bill in '91, under HW (who worked with Gore on the Kyoto cap'n'trade). what it amounts to, as Waxman basically admitted to, when he was at UCLA, is "let the arbitrageurs raise the price of energy, as much as they can in the 'free market' -- free beer, freedom!" a small, adjustable carbon tax would achieve the same ends -- as I even read "in passing" in a guest editorial in the WSUrinal, as well as from an "expert" in a UCLA seminar, but who said that it was (some how) "politically impossible" -- without being the Last Bailout of Wall Street (and the City of London). --mister Kelly, please, take me off of your list, Brian H. --Light: A History! http://wlym.com
From: PD on 26 May 2010 15:48 On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically. > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces > > > the electron into a higher orbital. > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the > atom. In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a higher electron orbital of which you speak? http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION_files/electron_orbitals1.jpg
From: mpc755 on 26 May 2010 15:55 On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically. > > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a > > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces > > > > the electron into a higher orbital. > > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher > > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies > > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the > > atom. > > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a > higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION... Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is different than Maxwell's displacement current - Mass is not conserved. The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter. - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current. - Matter and aether are different states of the same material. The material is mæther. Mæther has mass. Aether and matter have mass. Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther. In E=mc^2, Energy is effect of matter transitioning to aether. Mass is conserved. My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself. In a double slit experiment the photon wave enters and exits both slits. The photon 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The photon wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon 'particle' causes decoherence of the photon wave and there is no interference. If detectors are placed at the exits to the slits the photon 'particle' is always detected exiting a single slit because the photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit. Mæther has mass. Aether and matter have mass. Aether and matter are different states of mæther. Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Mass does not convert to energy. Matter converts to aether. As the mæther transitions from matter to aether it increases in volume. The physical effect the increase in volume has on the neighboring matter and aether is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on 26 May 2010 15:56 On May 26, 3:48 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > that is not an "image of a photon," > but an "artist's impression" of some heuristic statement > by a theoretician (which is as much status as any > of us can have, hereinat). > > you continue to not realize, although it is quite common > amongst all "photonics" workers, naturally, that > the wave & particel are merely mathematical duals, > not that the object in question is both at the same time, > or neccesarily both at different times. > Are you refuting your own statement? "the wave of light travels through both slits, whence it recombines through constructive interference, and collapses as a single quantum" The photon wave travels through both slits. The ability of the photon wave to collapse and be detected as a single quantum occupies a very small region of the wave and travels a single path.
From: PD on 26 May 2010 16:02
On May 26, 2:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically. > > > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a > > > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces > > > > > the electron into a higher orbital. > > > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher > > > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies > > > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the > > > atom. > > > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be > > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a > > higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION... > > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: > Gee, you made a claim, I asked you a question about your claim, you do not answer the question and instead ask me a question involving words you don't know the meaning of. If there aren't answers to questions about your own ideas, then perhaps you should just admit it. |