From: Mark Conrad on
In article <timmcn-C88A8B.22321519062010(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>, Tim
McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:

> > What sort of DSL speeds do you guys in the big cities get?
>
> 1.5 at my house. Slow, for broadband by modern standards but good
> enough for me. Qwest wants too damned much for upgrading.


What bugs me is that a lot of other countries have
deployed fast fiber optic networks, while the USA
lags behind.

Anyone know why ?

Seems to me the cost would be low, so my guess is
that there are political reasons delaying fiber optics.

Mark-
From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
Michelle Steiner wrote:

> In many other countries, the phone system is run by the government; in the
> US, it is run by private enterprise that has little to no competition.
>
> There are some functions that are better run by the government than by
> industry, even though the majority of functions should be in private hands.
>

Actually it had started in the late 1990's. Remember the telecom boom?

Telephone companies merged (i.e. WorldCom) and raised lots of money to run
fiber optic cables all over the major US cities and they did.

If you look at the mid 1990's telephone rates, people were happily paying
$.14 a minute for voice on cell phones and $40 a month to the phone company
for unlimited landline modem calls (data).

The speculation that fueld the boom was that people would be willing to
pay cellular voice rates for cellular data. If you figure 56kbps on an
async line is 5k bytes per second or less including overhead, that would
mean the average user would be pay $.14 for 300k bytes of data or about
a dollar for 2 megabytes.

As we all know lead ballons only fly on mythbusters, and this was a lead
ballon of the biggest possible proportions. It simply never got off the
ground.

The telecom market crashed, which lead to the race for the bottom (almost
free landline/VoIP calls) and lots of included cellular minutes as long as
they got a monthly fee from you to lock you in as a customer.

Lots of fiber "went dark" and I'm sure a lot of it is now unusable as it
was not maintained and the electronics at each end are obsolete.

Now the telecoms are loath to invest in consumer communications, or expand
their network out of the big cities.

Geoff.
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I do multitasking. If that bothers you, file a complaint and I will start
ignoring it immediately.
From: George Kerby on



On 6/20/10 2:48 AM, in article 200620100048074289%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid,
"Mark Conrad" <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote:

> In article <timmcn-C88A8B.22321519062010(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>, Tim
> McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>>> What sort of DSL speeds do you guys in the big cities get?
>>
>> 1.5 at my house. Slow, for broadband by modern standards but good
>> enough for me. Qwest wants too damned much for upgrading.
>
>
> What bugs me is that a lot of other countries have
> deployed fast fiber optic networks, while the USA
> lags behind.
>
> Anyone know why ?
>
> Seems to me the cost would be low, so my guess is
> that there are political reasons delaying fiber optics.
>
> Mark-

You're right, it's *still* all Bush's fault.

The Anointed One will fix it - between rounds of golf and that bothersome
oil thingy.

From: Tim McNamara on
In article <200620100048074289%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid>,
Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote:

> In article <timmcn-C88A8B.22321519062010(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>,
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > > What sort of DSL speeds do you guys in the big cities get?
> >
> > 1.5 at my house. Slow, for broadband by modern standards but good
> > enough for me. Qwest wants too damned much for upgrading.
>
>
> What bugs me is that a lot of other countries have deployed fast
> fiber optic networks, while the USA lags behind.
>
> Anyone know why ?
>
> Seems to me the cost would be low, so my guess is that there are
> political reasons delaying fiber optics.

In those other countries, it is often the government which builds and
operates that infrastructure. In the US, we believe in having private
enterprise do this. The problem is that we also have granted monopolies
to broadband providers (e.g., phone companies and cable companies) and
so they have little intrinsic motivation to innovate, upgrade and
compete. It also results in ridiculously high prices for broadband
service because there is little competition to bring down costs. It's
also expensive to build a fiber optic network and run it to 100,000,000
homes and 20,000,000 businesses.

The city of Minneapolis actually succeeded in getting city-wide wireless
Internet installed- one of the few cities to actually make that happen
despite many trying- but it is operated by a single private company
which has a monopoly. So in Minneapolis you have several options- cable
broadband (usually Comcast), phone line broadband (Qwest) or wireless
(USI Wireless). In my neighborhood in St. Paul, which neighbors
Minneapolis, there are two broadband options- Qwest and Comcast.

--
That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, Bingo.
From: Mark Conrad on
In article <slrni1rmi3.jfd.gsm(a)cable.mendelson.com>, Geoffrey S.
Mendelson <gsm(a)cable.mendelson.com> wrote:

> >> DVD-9 (dual layer DVD) is a much better choice.
> >
> > What's wrong with just dumping the video on a
> > hard drive, bypassing DVD-9 altogether.
>
> Two problems, I leave them to you do decide if it matters.
>
> The first is that hard drives are fragile. They need to be shipped and stored
> carefully. If you expect to play an hour or more of video off of one, you
> probably will have to get a 3.5 inch ine rated for constant duty. The little
> 2.5 inch laptop/backup drives get too hot for long term use.

Not to worry. Small cool-running robust SSD drives will
be out soon. I already run an internal 512-GB SSD in
my new 17" MacBook Pro.

Insignificant price of that optional drive was $1,300 USD.

....all paid for by the taxpayers of this great country, for
welfare leaches like me.


> The second is that they are atractive. If left sitting on a counter,
> they tend to say "steal me".

Naw, SSDs can easily be disguised as a flattened turd.



> I expect so. Does the US allow "videotaping" operations
> for educational purposes with the patient's permission?

Yeah, but the patient would have to sign off so many
medical release forms ahead-of-time that he would
expire before he finished.

Heck, when I go into the local medical clinic here to get
my temperature taken, I have to sign so many release
forms that I think I am buying a house.

Lawyers follow doctors around here hoping they will
make a mistake, so they can sue their pants off.


> You don't need to control the satellite, just the data.
> Encrypted satellite video has been around since 1985.
> Enctypted data transmission goes back
> to Julius Ceaser's days, and is very common now.

Good point, and it is not like anyone had physical access
to the satellite itself. ;-)


> ...if you want to be at the forefront
> of cardiac medicine, Hebrew. :-)

Don't blow my cover, few people here know I am a
jay Jewish Negress cursed with a bushy black beard.

Actually, I know nothing medical at all, so who is better
qualified to tell the medical industry how to run the show.

Mark-
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