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From: Elliott Roper on 10 Mar 2010 15:37 In article <1jf5mk3.bjyxchqj5kcqN%jim(a)magrathea.plus.com>, Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > They dropped codecs to make QuicktimeX (the one with the black window > > > and no title bar, but Quicktime is still the same as it has been for a > > > while. > > > > AIUI, QT X and QT 7 are just the names for the front-ends, the players. > > Or am I wrong? > > 'QuickTime' describes the entirety of the product - the frameworks, APIs > and ultimately the bits normal users see, the players etc. Yebbut yebbut are there not two flavours of Quicktime? Old carbon Quicktime whose outward and visible sign is Quicktime Player 7 and New cocoa Quicktime whose inner and spiritual grace is obscured by the egregiously prematurely born Quicktime Player X -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248
From: Jim on 10 Mar 2010 15:59 Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote: > > > AIUI, QT X and QT 7 are just the names for the front-ends, the players. > > > Or am I wrong? > > > > 'QuickTime' describes the entirety of the product - the frameworks, APIs > > and ultimately the bits normal users see, the players etc. > > Yebbut yebbut are there not two flavours of Quicktime? > Old carbon Quicktime whose outward and visible sign is Quicktime Player > 7 > and New cocoa Quicktime whose inner and spiritual grace is obscured by > the egregiously prematurely born Quicktime Player X Yes. 'Quicktime' describes the technology. The purpose. The rest is just a version number. Granted it can have huge ramificatons for people trying to use it at a low level. As I understand it (ie, poorly), prior to Quicktime X if you wanted to code something that used QT then you had to get down and dirty with Carbon (or C at least). X (I think) puts it firmly into Cocoa (Objective-C) and, although lacking feature parity with 7, is the way forward. Jim -- "Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: Woody on 10 Mar 2010 18:47 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > gWoody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > Howard <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote: > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > [snip] > > > > Tks Rowland. On another forum someone told me that when Quicktime was > > > revamped a year or so ago they dumped a bunch of codecs. IF this is true > > > this may explain why they played perfectly about 18-24 months ago. > > > > They dropped codecs to make QuicktimeX (the one with the black window > > and no title bar, but Quicktime is still the same as it has been for a > > while. > > AIUI, QT X and QT 7 are just the names for the front-ends, the players. > Or am I wrong? I thought they were different inside. I have had a movie that wouldn't play on QTX, but would play on QT 7, which makes me think they are different, but really I haven't looked into it. -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Chris Ridd on 11 Mar 2010 02:03 On 2010-03-10 20:37:23 +0000, Elliott Roper said: > In article <1jf5mk3.bjyxchqj5kcqN%jim(a)magrathea.plus.com>, Jim > <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > >> 'QuickTime' describes the entirety of the product - the frameworks, APIs >> and ultimately the bits normal users see, the players etc. > > Yebbut yebbut are there not two flavours of Quicktime? > Old carbon Quicktime whose outward and visible sign is Quicktime Player > 7 > and New cocoa Quicktime whose inner and spiritual grace is obscured by > the egregiously prematurely born Quicktime Player X Yes there are two flavours, but I'm not sure you can categorize them as Carbon vs Cocoa. The new one can (does!) support GPU acceleration when decoding certain streams, but obviously doesn't support additional codecs :-( -- Chris
From: Rowland McDonnell on 11 Mar 2010 12:25
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > gWoody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > Howard <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > Tks Rowland. On another forum someone told me that when Quicktime was > > > > revamped a year or so ago they dumped a bunch of codecs. IF this is true > > > > this may explain why they played perfectly about 18-24 months ago. > > > > > > They dropped codecs to make QuicktimeX (the one with the black window > > > and no title bar, but Quicktime is still the same as it has been for a > > > while. > > > > AIUI, QT X and QT 7 are just the names for the front-ends, the players. > > Or am I wrong? > > I thought they were different inside. I have had a movie that wouldn't > play on QTX, but would play on QT 7, which makes me think they are > different, but really I haven't looked into it. Okay - ta. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |