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From: Jim on 11 Mar 2010 14:18
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> QuickTime is just a product name, used for various things at different
> times as Apple sees fit with the rest of us trying to figure out how to
> make Apple's marketing drivel mean something.

To the best of my knowledge it's _always_ been used by Apple to refer to
their audio/visual technologies which consist of, as I said, APIs,
frameworks and the graphical front ends to them. Software.

If it's been used for a different product by Apple them please enlighten
me.

Jim
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From: Rowland McDonnell on 12 Mar 2010 00:32
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > QuickTime is just a product name, used for various things at different
> > times as Apple sees fit with the rest of us trying to figure out how to
> > make Apple's marketing drivel mean something.
>
> To the best of my knowledge it's _always_ been used by Apple to refer to
> their audio/visual technologies which consist of, as I said, APIs,
> frameworks and the graphical front ends to them. Software.
>
> If it's been used for a different product by Apple them please enlighten
> me.

APIs, frameworks, and the graphical front ends you refer to cannot be
called *A* product. They are multiple products.

And exactly what's been called what, *precisely*, is not something that
you or I know at the moment.

For example, the player is not called QuickTime. It's called QuickTime
Player. And so on.

What *exactly* is *THE* single thing that's always been called QuickTime
- without any other parts to the name or any qualifications?

Is there such a thing? Where is your reference to back up your claim?

I think that the only thing which has been called QuickTime without
qualification is - no single part of the set-up at all, it's been used
as a catch-all term to encompass each of the parts that Apple wants to
talk about *at the moment*, and being Apple, it'll use the terms
slightly differently next time.

Now do you understand my point? Or are you just going to carry on with
your usual mindless contrarianism for the sake of causing a pointless
argument because you like winding me up, that being something that makes
you feel big and strong and hard and all that?

Rowland.

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From: Jim on 12 Mar 2010 01:13
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> > > QuickTime is just a product name, used for various things at different
> > > times as Apple sees fit with the rest of us trying to figure out how to
> > > make Apple's marketing drivel mean something.
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge it's _always_ been used by Apple to refer to
> > their audio/visual technologies which consist of, as I said, APIs,
> > frameworks and the graphical front ends to them. Software.
> >
> > If it's been used for a different product by Apple them please enlighten
> > me.
>
> APIs, frameworks, and the graphical front ends you refer to cannot be
> called *A* product. They are multiple products.

No, they are all components of *a* product - QuickTime.

> For example, the player is not called QuickTime. It's called QuickTime
> Player. And so on.

Yes. QuickTime Player is a component of QuickTime. It couldn't do
anything without the other components.

> What *exactly* is *THE* single thing that's always been called QuickTime
> - without any other parts to the name or any qualifications?

That's a bit like asking which part of the car is the Ford Escort.

> I think that the only thing which has been called QuickTime without
> qualification is - no single part of the set-up at all, it's been used
> as a catch-all term to encompass each of the parts that Apple wants to
> talk about *at the moment*, and being Apple, it'll use the terms
> slightly differently next time.

Not so far as I can remember, no. It's always refered to the AV
technology.

<snip>

Jim
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product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious
understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some
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