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From: rjf2 on 18 Nov 2009 14:47 > From: OR Stats > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > has anyone figured out yet if we can generate graphical files > and outputs in mainframe SAS? yes, but ... the key to writing Windows files from z/OS is to write to an HFS server HFS is essentially an ASCII server on the EBCDIC platform. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_File_System see also: http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/ guesstimate of file-specification: ODS pdf file ='HFS//ProjectA/pdf/MyOutput.pdf'; Ron Fehd a former HFS user CDC Atlanta GA USA RJF2 at cdc dot gov
From: Gerhard Hellriegel on 18 Nov 2009 14:33 for sure you can! (for sure you need SAS/GRAPH for that). I know sites which produce hundreds (sometimes thousends) of graphs on mainframe in batch and display them in a web-application. My experience is, that most of the terminal-emulations or the VTAM definitions of the terminals or both, are NOT graphic-enabled! In former days you had to buy expensive addons for the emulators, e.g. "Attachmate graphic feature". I think today there are many emulations which can emulate graphical terminals and the others should have that feature also now. It is not necessary to display the graphics output on a terminal, but it is good for developing and testing. What you can't do (as far as I know) is displaying typical HTML (PC-) formats like png, gif, jpg, ... However you can create them. The developing is not comfortable, because the results in SAS and the gif's are different. So if you are satisfied with your graph in SAS and bring that to a web-server in gif or ..., you might be not satisfied and have to change some settings again. So the displaying on mainframe is not essential, because you have to switch rather early to your desired format anyway. Gerhard On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:02:49 -0600, OR Stats <stats112(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: >has anyone figured out yet if we can generate graphical files and outputs in >mainframe SAS? > >On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Kevin Wu <kwu0914(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello SAS_L, >> >> In order to use SAS on mainframe, what are the most basic knowledge of z/OS >> which someone should have? >> >> Appreciate if you can recommend some learning material to let mainframe >> newbie >> ramp up quickly. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Kevin >>
From: John Burton on 18 Nov 2009 18:41 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpajoh(a)odot.org> wrote: > I second Ron's comment. > I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. > > Masoud I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( Ray
From: Nathaniel Wooding on 18 Nov 2009 19:50 I, too, greatly admire some features of ISPF. Unfortunately, I suspect that the designers of most of the pc editors are not aware of these features. Nat Wooding -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:42 PM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpajoh(a)odot.org> wrote: > I second Ron's comment. > I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. > > Masoud I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( Ray CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you.
From: Savian on 18 Nov 2009 20:49
On Nov 18, 4:41 pm, jrburtonsas...(a)GMAIL.COM (John Burton) wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpa...(a)odot.org> wrote: > > I second Ron's comment. > > I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. > > > Masoud > > I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. > > Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some > mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user > friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that > these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and > were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( > > Ray ISPF was an awesome editor...for its time and in a non-GUI interface. Visual Studios is by far the best editor I have ever worked with. Alan http://www.savian.net |