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From: John Burton on 18 Nov 2009 20:25 Many moons ago there was a ISPF editor made for the PC. I don't think it exists anymore. It wasn't as robust as the original on mainframe, but did carry over a lot of the good attributes of its parent. Ray On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding(a)dom.com> wrote: > I, too, greatly admire some features of ISPF. Unfortunately, I suspect that the designers of most of the pc editors are not aware of these features. > > Nat Wooding > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:42 PM > To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpajoh(a)odot.org> wrote: >> I second Ron's comment. >> I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. >> >> Masoud > > I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. > > Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some > mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user > friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that > these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and > were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( > > Ray > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains > information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and > does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer > relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional > express written confirmation to that effect. The information is > intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access > by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If > you have received this electronic transmission in error, please > reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message > in error, and delete it. Thank you. >
From: Philip Rack on 18 Nov 2009 20:54 Is this what you are thinking about? http://www.commandtechnology.com/main.asp?pg=home Man, there's a lot of dinosaurs on this list serve! Anyone ever use Wylbur instead of TSO? Philip Rack MineQuest, LLC SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller Tel: (614) 457-3714 Web: www.MineQuest.com Blog: www.MineQuest.com/WordPress -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:25 PM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe Many moons ago there was a ISPF editor made for the PC. I don't think it exists anymore. It wasn't as robust as the original on mainframe, but did carry over a lot of the good attributes of its parent. Ray On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding(a)dom.com> wrote: > I, too, greatly admire some features of ISPF. Unfortunately, I suspect that the designers of most of the pc editors are not aware of these features. > > Nat Wooding > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:42 PM > To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpajoh(a)odot.org> wrote: >> I second Ron's comment. >> I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. >> >> Masoud > > I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. > > Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some > mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user > friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that > these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and > were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( > > Ray > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains > information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and > does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer > relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional > express written confirmation to that effect. The information is > intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access > by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If > you have received this electronic transmission in error, please > reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message > in error, and delete it. Thank you. >
From: Tom Abernathy on 18 Nov 2009 21:32 Can we get the WYLBUR change command added to the SAS program editor? I seem to remember that it did everything including slicing bread. On Nov 18, 8:54 pm, PhilR...(a)MINEQUEST.COM (Philip Rack) wrote: > Is this what you are thinking about? > > http://www.commandtechnology.com/main.asp?pg=home > > Man, there's a lot of dinosaurs on this list serve! Anyone ever use Wylbur > instead of TSO? > > Philip Rack > MineQuest, LLC > SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller > Tel: (614) 457-3714 > Web:www.MineQuest.com > Blog:www.MineQuest.com/WordPress > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SA...(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John > > Burton > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:25 PM > To: SA...(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > Many moons ago there was a ISPF editor made for the PC. I don't think > it exists anymore. It wasn't as robust as the original on mainframe, > but did carry over a lot of the good attributes of its parent. > > Ray > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Nathaniel Wooding > <nathaniel.wood...(a)dom.com> wrote: > > I, too, greatly admire some features of ISPF. Unfortunately, I suspect > that the designers of most of the pc editors are not aware of these > features. > > > Nat Wooding > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SA...(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John > Burton > > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:42 PM > > To: SA...(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpa...(a)odot.org> wrote: > >> I second Ron's comment. > >> I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. > > >> Masoud > > > I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. > > > Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some > > mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user > > friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that > > these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and > > were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( > > > Ray > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains > > information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and > > does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer > > relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional > > express written confirmation to that effect. The information is > > intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access > > by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > > contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If > > you have received this electronic transmission in error, please > > reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message > > in error, and delete it. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Nathaniel Wooding on 19 Nov 2009 07:37 Ray Guess what: it was called ISPF PC. Our mutual friend "Dave N." was a user as I recall. I just did a quick search for it and found some hits but the one link that I had time to follow failed. Nat -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:25 PM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe Many moons ago there was a ISPF editor made for the PC. I don't think it exists anymore. It wasn't as robust as the original on mainframe, but did carry over a lot of the good attributes of its parent. Ray On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding(a)dom.com> wrote: > I, too, greatly admire some features of ISPF. Unfortunately, I suspect that the designers of most of the pc editors are not aware of these features. > > Nat Wooding > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:42 PM > To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpajoh(a)odot.org> wrote: >> I second Ron's comment. >> I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. >> >> Masoud > > I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. > > Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some > mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user > friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that > these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and > were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( > > Ray > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains > information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and > does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer > relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional > express written confirmation to that effect. The information is > intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access > by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If > you have received this electronic transmission in error, please > reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message > in error, and delete it. Thank you. > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you.
From: Masoud Pajoh on 19 Nov 2009 08:21
As we were moving to the PC, and appropriate applications, for a short while i also used the ISPF PC also. And, as said, it did some of the basic operations of the mainframe original but it was never an equal clone:( Masoud Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding(a)DOM.COM> Sent by: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> 11/19/2009 06:37 AM Please respond to Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding(a)DOM.COM> To SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc Subject Re: SAS on Mainframe Ray Guess what: it was called ISPF PC. Our mutual friend "Dave N." was a user as I recall. I just did a quick search for it and found some hits but the one link that I had time to follow failed. Nat -----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:25 PM To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe Many moons ago there was a ISPF editor made for the PC. I don't think it exists anymore. It wasn't as robust as the original on mainframe, but did carry over a lot of the good attributes of its parent. Ray On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding(a)dom.com> wrote: > I, too, greatly admire some features of ISPF. Unfortunately, I suspect that the designers of most of the pc editors are not aware of these features. > > Nat Wooding > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Burton > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:42 PM > To: SAS-L(a)LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: SAS on Mainframe > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Masoud Pajoh <mpajoh(a)odot.org> wrote: >> I second Ron's comment. >> I have yet to find an editor to come to par with ISPF. >> >> Masoud > > I agree. Too bad other editors weren't modeled after ISPF. > > Unfortunately, I have found over the past few years that some > mainframe administrators have made their mainframe sites less user > friendly than they have been in the past. It might be possible that > these mainframe administrators were originally UNIX adminstrators and > were involuntarily assigned to administer the mainframe sites. 8-( > > Ray > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains > information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and > does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer > relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional > express written confirmation to that effect. The information is > intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access > by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If > you have received this electronic transmission in error, please > reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message > in error, and delete it. Thank you. > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. |