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From: Jim on 22 Mar 2010 10:45
OK, it's running the http://connect OK now..

...and will join the Windows 7 laptop to the new SBS2008 domain..

Part way through the connect computer wizard it says that it has found
settings and documents belonging to users which it can import into the new
user profile..

Well, problem number one is that it doesn't show me the name of the old
domain user...so I cannot select the required profile ??

All I get offered is: None and Administrator.

So I had to select none and continue...

When it finished and restarted a couple of times I finally logged onto the
new domain...guess what ?

I had a new profile called: Peter.domain instead of just: Peter

This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid..!

Anyway, lets back track a little, I suspect that whatever I do uing the
http://connect I'm going to end up with Peter.domain and not actually be
using the single existing Peter profile from the old domain ?

Maybe this is bearable *if* I can get it to transfer the documents and
settings from the Peter profile into Peter.domain profile.

Anyone any ideas why Peter isn't showing in the drop down list ?

Jim.



"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
news:ho7q22$2mb5$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ???
>
> I've Approved/Deployed it..
>
> Let's see what happens now...
>
> Jim.
>
>
> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
> news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>> OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is
>> currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain using
>> the http://connect connect computer wizard.
>>
>> ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does not
>> meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah..
>>
>> I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and then
>> restarted the server..
>>
>> Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect through
>> the wizard...same error message..??
>>
>> I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails if I
>> try to use the http://connect
>>
>> And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this will
>> keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS 2008
>> domain.
>>
>> I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there are no
>> new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever.
>>
>> Any ideas what to try next ?
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old
>>> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything intact
>>> in the same profile ?
>>>
>>> ie:
>>>
>>> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain.
>>>
>>> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008 domain
>>> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do what I
>>> want ?
>>>
>>> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server using
>>> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ?
>>>
>>> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I don't
>>> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with it,
>>> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..?
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
>>> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com...
>>>> I know this may sound too simple
>>>> but from the PC go to http://connect
>>>>
>>>> and it works
>>>> Russ
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>>>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>>>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it
>>>>> wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install
>>>>> the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active
>>>>> directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport
>>>>> it into the new server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing
>>>>> for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to
>>>>> perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing
>>>>> the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving
>>>>> the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and also
>>>>> the original users profile under Documents and Settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up
>>>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old
>>>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in
>>>>> the registry.
>>>>>
>>>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and
>>>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> So..Question time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration
>>>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all
>>>>> the data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle..
>>>>>
>>>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go
>>>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user
>>>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications
>>>>> setup and working exactly as they were before.
>>>>>
>>>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7
>>>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain'
>>>>>
>>>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely
>>>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new
>>>>> profile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this
>>>>> sucessfully ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Jim on 22 Mar 2010 13:08
I'm pretty sure you'll *always* get the username.domain entry if
there's already a username folder, regardless of which method you use.
We never use the http://connect approach, we just add the computer to
the domain manually - we don't use RWW so once we've added it there's
nothing else left to do.

You'll be able to transfer the documents trvially, but the settings
probably won't come across - some will but many won't.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:04 -0000, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
wrote:

>OK, it's running the http://connect OK now..
>
>..and will join the Windows 7 laptop to the new SBS2008 domain..
>
>Part way through the connect computer wizard it says that it has found
>settings and documents belonging to users which it can import into the new
>user profile..
>
>Well, problem number one is that it doesn't show me the name of the old
>domain user...so I cannot select the required profile ??
>
>All I get offered is: None and Administrator.
>
>So I had to select none and continue...
>
>When it finished and restarted a couple of times I finally logged onto the
>new domain...guess what ?
>
>I had a new profile called: Peter.domain instead of just: Peter
>
>This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid..!
>
>Anyway, lets back track a little, I suspect that whatever I do uing the
>http://connect I'm going to end up with Peter.domain and not actually be
>using the single existing Peter profile from the old domain ?
>
>Maybe this is bearable *if* I can get it to transfer the documents and
>settings from the Peter profile into Peter.domain profile.
>
>Anyone any ideas why Peter isn't showing in the drop down list ?
>
>Jim.
>
>
>
>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>news:ho7q22$2mb5$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>> Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ???
>>
>> I've Approved/Deployed it..
>>
>> Let's see what happens now...
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>> OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is
>>> currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain using
>>> the http://connect connect computer wizard.
>>>
>>> ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does not
>>> meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah..
>>>
>>> I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and then
>>> restarted the server..
>>>
>>> Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect through
>>> the wizard...same error message..??
>>>
>>> I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails if I
>>> try to use the http://connect
>>>
>>> And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this will
>>> keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS 2008
>>> domain.
>>>
>>> I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there are no
>>> new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what to try next ?
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old
>>>> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything intact
>>>> in the same profile ?
>>>>
>>>> ie:
>>>>
>>>> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain.
>>>>
>>>> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008 domain
>>>> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do what I
>>>> want ?
>>>>
>>>> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server using
>>>> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ?
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I don't
>>>> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with it,
>>>> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..?
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
>>>> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com...
>>>>> I know this may sound too simple
>>>>> but from the PC go to http://connect
>>>>>
>>>>> and it works
>>>>> Russ
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>>>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>>>>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>>>>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it
>>>>>> wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install
>>>>>> the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active
>>>>>> directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport
>>>>>> it into the new server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing
>>>>>> for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to
>>>>>> perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing
>>>>>> the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving
>>>>>> the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and also
>>>>>> the original users profile under Documents and Settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up
>>>>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old
>>>>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in
>>>>>> the registry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and
>>>>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So..Question time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration
>>>>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all
>>>>>> the data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go
>>>>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user
>>>>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications
>>>>>> setup and working exactly as they were before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7
>>>>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely
>>>>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new
>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this
>>>>>> sucessfully ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
From: Jim on 22 Mar 2010 19:22
That's what I thought...regards using http://connect

We have a very good method that works for transferring XP machines between
domains, been using it for years.

I think I stumbled upon it in one of Harry Brelsford's books or a blog of
his or something.

It's a bit long winded and manual but it works and you get to keep the same
profile as was.
..
Once you get used to it you can transfer a machine in minutes and keep
everything exactly the same as it was before, same profile name and
everything.

That's why we've pretty much never bothered with http://connect though it's
probably perfectly suitable for use with new PC's.

Trouble is we've tried the same approach with our custom method with Vista
and Windows 7 and it doesn't work, most likely UAC gets in the way..

Anyway, your post caught me out ...another Jim ;-)

If you're interested I can let you know how we usually do existing XP
machines.

Jim.




"Jim" <jim(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:9s8fq512e73hl805j6lkv9qpp7d8h9r0c0(a)4ax.com...
> I'm pretty sure you'll *always* get the username.domain entry if
> there's already a username folder, regardless of which method you use.
> We never use the http://connect approach, we just add the computer to
> the domain manually - we don't use RWW so once we've added it there's
> nothing else left to do.
>
> You'll be able to transfer the documents trvially, but the settings
> probably won't come across - some will but many won't.
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:04 -0000, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>OK, it's running the http://connect OK now..
>>
>>..and will join the Windows 7 laptop to the new SBS2008 domain..
>>
>>Part way through the connect computer wizard it says that it has found
>>settings and documents belonging to users which it can import into the new
>>user profile..
>>
>>Well, problem number one is that it doesn't show me the name of the old
>>domain user...so I cannot select the required profile ??
>>
>>All I get offered is: None and Administrator.
>>
>>So I had to select none and continue...
>>
>>When it finished and restarted a couple of times I finally logged onto the
>>new domain...guess what ?
>>
>>I had a new profile called: Peter.domain instead of just: Peter
>>
>>This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid..!
>>
>>Anyway, lets back track a little, I suspect that whatever I do uing the
>>http://connect I'm going to end up with Peter.domain and not actually be
>>using the single existing Peter profile from the old domain ?
>>
>>Maybe this is bearable *if* I can get it to transfer the documents and
>>settings from the Peter profile into Peter.domain profile.
>>
>>Anyone any ideas why Peter isn't showing in the drop down list ?
>>
>>Jim.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>news:ho7q22$2mb5$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>> Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ???
>>>
>>> I've Approved/Deployed it..
>>>
>>> Let's see what happens now...
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>> OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is
>>>> currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain using
>>>> the http://connect connect computer wizard.
>>>>
>>>> ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does
>>>> not
>>>> meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah..
>>>>
>>>> I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and
>>>> then
>>>> restarted the server..
>>>>
>>>> Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect
>>>> through
>>>> the wizard...same error message..??
>>>>
>>>> I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails if
>>>> I
>>>> try to use the http://connect
>>>>
>>>> And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this will
>>>> keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS
>>>> 2008
>>>> domain.
>>>>
>>>> I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there are
>>>> no
>>>> new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas what to try next ?
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old
>>>>> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything
>>>>> intact
>>>>> in the same profile ?
>>>>>
>>>>> ie:
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008
>>>>> domain
>>>>> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do what
>>>>> I
>>>>> want ?
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server
>>>>> using
>>>>> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with
>>>>> it,
>>>>> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com...
>>>>>> I know this may sound too simple
>>>>>> but from the PC go to http://connect
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it works
>>>>>> Russ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>>>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>>>>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>>>>>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>>>>>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it
>>>>>>> wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install
>>>>>>> the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active
>>>>>>> directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport
>>>>>>> it into the new server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing
>>>>>>> for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to
>>>>>>> perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing
>>>>>>> the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> the original users profile under Documents and Settings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up
>>>>>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old
>>>>>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in
>>>>>>> the registry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7
>>>>>>> ...and
>>>>>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So..Question time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a
>>>>>>> migration
>>>>>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications
>>>>>>> setup and working exactly as they were before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows
>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be
>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new
>>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this
>>>>>>> sucessfully ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 22 Mar 2010 20:28
Actually you really should use the http://connect
it does about 57 checks to make sure your PC is correct for adding to the
domain.
one important thing for laptops is it configures RPC over HTTPS for you.
it does more than that but, IMO you should really use the wizard.

I hope also you are using the Wizard to create users/
Otherwise they won't be in the correct OU.
For other Things

Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz

"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
news:ho8u3q$1dag$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> That's what I thought...regards using http://connect
>
> We have a very good method that works for transferring XP machines between
> domains, been using it for years.
>
> I think I stumbled upon it in one of Harry Brelsford's books or a blog of
> his or something.
>
> It's a bit long winded and manual but it works and you get to keep the
> same profile as was.
> .
> Once you get used to it you can transfer a machine in minutes and keep
> everything exactly the same as it was before, same profile name and
> everything.
>
> That's why we've pretty much never bothered with http://connect though
> it's probably perfectly suitable for use with new PC's.
>
> Trouble is we've tried the same approach with our custom method with Vista
> and Windows 7 and it doesn't work, most likely UAC gets in the way..
>
> Anyway, your post caught me out ...another Jim ;-)
>
> If you're interested I can let you know how we usually do existing XP
> machines.
>
> Jim.
>
>
>
>
> "Jim" <jim(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:9s8fq512e73hl805j6lkv9qpp7d8h9r0c0(a)4ax.com...
>> I'm pretty sure you'll *always* get the username.domain entry if
>> there's already a username folder, regardless of which method you use.
>> We never use the http://connect approach, we just add the computer to
>> the domain manually - we don't use RWW so once we've added it there's
>> nothing else left to do.
>>
>> You'll be able to transfer the documents trvially, but the settings
>> probably won't come across - some will but many won't.
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:04 -0000, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>OK, it's running the http://connect OK now..
>>>
>>>..and will join the Windows 7 laptop to the new SBS2008 domain..
>>>
>>>Part way through the connect computer wizard it says that it has found
>>>settings and documents belonging to users which it can import into the
>>>new
>>>user profile..
>>>
>>>Well, problem number one is that it doesn't show me the name of the old
>>>domain user...so I cannot select the required profile ??
>>>
>>>All I get offered is: None and Administrator.
>>>
>>>So I had to select none and continue...
>>>
>>>When it finished and restarted a couple of times I finally logged onto
>>>the
>>>new domain...guess what ?
>>>
>>>I had a new profile called: Peter.domain instead of just: Peter
>>>
>>>This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid..!
>>>
>>>Anyway, lets back track a little, I suspect that whatever I do uing the
>>>http://connect I'm going to end up with Peter.domain and not actually be
>>>using the single existing Peter profile from the old domain ?
>>>
>>>Maybe this is bearable *if* I can get it to transfer the documents and
>>>settings from the Peter profile into Peter.domain profile.
>>>
>>>Anyone any ideas why Peter isn't showing in the drop down list ?
>>>
>>>Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ho7q22$2mb5$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>> Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ???
>>>>
>>>> I've Approved/Deployed it..
>>>>
>>>> Let's see what happens now...
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>> OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is
>>>>> currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain using
>>>>> the http://connect connect computer wizard.
>>>>>
>>>>> ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does
>>>>> not
>>>>> meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah..
>>>>>
>>>>> I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and
>>>>> then
>>>>> restarted the server..
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect
>>>>> through
>>>>> the wizard...same error message..??
>>>>>
>>>>> I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails
>>>>> if I
>>>>> try to use the http://connect
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this
>>>>> will
>>>>> keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS
>>>>> 2008
>>>>> domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there are
>>>>> no
>>>>> new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas what to try next ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old
>>>>>> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything
>>>>>> intact
>>>>>> in the same profile ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ie:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008
>>>>>> domain
>>>>>> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do
>>>>>> what I
>>>>>> want ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> I know this may sound too simple
>>>>>>> but from the PC go to http://connect
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it works
>>>>>>> Russ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>>>>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>>>>>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>>>>>>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>>>>>>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it
>>>>>>>> wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install
>>>>>>>> the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active
>>>>>>>> directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and
>>>>>>>> reimport
>>>>>>>> it into the new server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing
>>>>>>>> for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to
>>>>>>>> perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing
>>>>>>>> the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then
>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>> the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> the original users profile under Documents and Settings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up
>>>>>>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old
>>>>>>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in
>>>>>>>> the registry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7
>>>>>>>> ...and
>>>>>>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So..Question time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a
>>>>>>>> migration
>>>>>>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we
>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the
>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications
>>>>>>>> setup and working exactly as they were before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his
>>>>>>>> Windows 7
>>>>>>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be
>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new
>>>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> sucessfully ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
From: Jim on 24 Mar 2010 10:20
Thanks Russ,

Yes, we use the SBS Console to do all the other stuff, always have, just
never botehred much with the computer connect wizard.

Most likely give this another look in the future if its as useful as you
appear to indicate.

Didn't resolve my initial problem though..

Jim.


"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
news:E1AEAE12-801C-4BD3-91BF-3AD0B327C9AA(a)microsoft.com...
> Actually you really should use the http://connect
> it does about 57 checks to make sure your PC is correct for adding to the
> domain.
> one important thing for laptops is it configures RPC over HTTPS for you.
> it does more than that but, IMO you should really use the wizard.
>
> I hope also you are using the Wizard to create users/
> Otherwise they won't be in the correct OU.
> For other Things
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
> Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz
>
> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
> news:ho8u3q$1dag$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>> That's what I thought...regards using http://connect
>>
>> We have a very good method that works for transferring XP machines
>> between domains, been using it for years.
>>
>> I think I stumbled upon it in one of Harry Brelsford's books or a blog of
>> his or something.
>>
>> It's a bit long winded and manual but it works and you get to keep the
>> same profile as was.
>> .
>> Once you get used to it you can transfer a machine in minutes and keep
>> everything exactly the same as it was before, same profile name and
>> everything.
>>
>> That's why we've pretty much never bothered with http://connect though
>> it's probably perfectly suitable for use with new PC's.
>>
>> Trouble is we've tried the same approach with our custom method with
>> Vista and Windows 7 and it doesn't work, most likely UAC gets in the
>> way..
>>
>> Anyway, your post caught me out ...another Jim ;-)
>>
>> If you're interested I can let you know how we usually do existing XP
>> machines.
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <jim(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:9s8fq512e73hl805j6lkv9qpp7d8h9r0c0(a)4ax.com...
>>> I'm pretty sure you'll *always* get the username.domain entry if
>>> there's already a username folder, regardless of which method you use.
>>> We never use the http://connect approach, we just add the computer to
>>> the domain manually - we don't use RWW so once we've added it there's
>>> nothing else left to do.
>>>
>>> You'll be able to transfer the documents trvially, but the settings
>>> probably won't come across - some will but many won't.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:04 -0000, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, it's running the http://connect OK now..
>>>>
>>>>..and will join the Windows 7 laptop to the new SBS2008 domain..
>>>>
>>>>Part way through the connect computer wizard it says that it has found
>>>>settings and documents belonging to users which it can import into the
>>>>new
>>>>user profile..
>>>>
>>>>Well, problem number one is that it doesn't show me the name of the old
>>>>domain user...so I cannot select the required profile ??
>>>>
>>>>All I get offered is: None and Administrator.
>>>>
>>>>So I had to select none and continue...
>>>>
>>>>When it finished and restarted a couple of times I finally logged onto
>>>>the
>>>>new domain...guess what ?
>>>>
>>>>I had a new profile called: Peter.domain instead of just: Peter
>>>>
>>>>This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid..!
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, lets back track a little, I suspect that whatever I do uing the
>>>>http://connect I'm going to end up with Peter.domain and not actually be
>>>>using the single existing Peter profile from the old domain ?
>>>>
>>>>Maybe this is bearable *if* I can get it to transfer the documents and
>>>>settings from the Peter profile into Peter.domain profile.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone any ideas why Peter isn't showing in the drop down list ?
>>>>
>>>>Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:ho7q22$2mb5$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>> Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ???
>>>>>
>>>>> I've Approved/Deployed it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see what happens now...
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>> OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is
>>>>>> currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> the http://connect connect computer wizard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> restarted the server..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the wizard...same error message..??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails
>>>>>> if I
>>>>>> try to use the http://connect
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS
>>>>>> 2008
>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there
>>>>>> are no
>>>>>> new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas what to try next ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>>> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users
>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything
>>>>>>> intact
>>>>>>> in the same profile ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ie:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008
>>>>>>> domain
>>>>>>> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do
>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>> want ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> I know this may sound too simple
>>>>>>>> but from the PC go to http://connect
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and it works
>>>>>>>> Russ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>>>>>>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>>>>>>>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>>>>>>>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>>>>>>>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services -
>>>>>>>> www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it
>>>>>>>>> wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to
>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>> the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the
>>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>> directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and
>>>>>>>>> reimport
>>>>>>>>> it into the new server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were
>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>> for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to
>>>>>>>>> perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to
>>>>>>>>> repointing
>>>>>>>>> the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then
>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>> the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> the original users profile under Documents and Settings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up
>>>>>>>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old
>>>>>>>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList'
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the registry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7
>>>>>>>>> ...and
>>>>>>>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So..Question time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a
>>>>>>>>> migration
>>>>>>>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can
>>>>>>>>> we go
>>>>>>>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the
>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their
>>>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>>>> setup and working exactly as they were before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his
>>>>>>>>> Windows 7
>>>>>>>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be
>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new
>>>>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> sucessfully ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>


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