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From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 24 Mar 2010 14:46 Trust me you REALLY want to use it.. Just to configure RPC over HTTPS it's worth it.. (I know I can configure RPC over HTTPS with my eyes closed but with 1 click.. DONE! I like EASY! Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message news:hod73a$1tdv$1(a)energise.enta.net... > Thanks Russ, > > Yes, we use the SBS Console to do all the other stuff, always have, just > never botehred much with the computer connect wizard. > > Most likely give this another look in the future if its as useful as you > appear to indicate. > > Didn't resolve my initial problem though.. > > Jim. > > > "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > news:E1AEAE12-801C-4BD3-91BF-3AD0B327C9AA(a)microsoft.com... >> Actually you really should use the http://connect >> it does about 57 checks to make sure your PC is correct for adding to the >> domain. >> one important thing for laptops is it configures RPC over HTTPS for you. >> it does more than that but, IMO you should really use the wizard. >> >> I hope also you are using the Wizard to create users/ >> Otherwise they won't be in the correct OU. >> For other Things >> >> Russ >> >> -- >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com >> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >> Twitter http://www.twitter.com/SBITSdotBiz >> >> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >> news:ho8u3q$1dag$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>> That's what I thought...regards using http://connect >>> >>> We have a very good method that works for transferring XP machines >>> between domains, been using it for years. >>> >>> I think I stumbled upon it in one of Harry Brelsford's books or a blog >>> of his or something. >>> >>> It's a bit long winded and manual but it works and you get to keep the >>> same profile as was. >>> . >>> Once you get used to it you can transfer a machine in minutes and keep >>> everything exactly the same as it was before, same profile name and >>> everything. >>> >>> That's why we've pretty much never bothered with http://connect though >>> it's probably perfectly suitable for use with new PC's. >>> >>> Trouble is we've tried the same approach with our custom method with >>> Vista and Windows 7 and it doesn't work, most likely UAC gets in the >>> way.. >>> >>> Anyway, your post caught me out ...another Jim ;-) >>> >>> If you're interested I can let you know how we usually do existing XP >>> machines. >>> >>> Jim. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Jim" <jim(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:9s8fq512e73hl805j6lkv9qpp7d8h9r0c0(a)4ax.com... >>>> I'm pretty sure you'll *always* get the username.domain entry if >>>> there's already a username folder, regardless of which method you use. >>>> We never use the http://connect approach, we just add the computer to >>>> the domain manually - we don't use RWW so once we've added it there's >>>> nothing else left to do. >>>> >>>> You'll be able to transfer the documents trvially, but the settings >>>> probably won't come across - some will but many won't. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:45:04 -0000, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>OK, it's running the http://connect OK now.. >>>>> >>>>>..and will join the Windows 7 laptop to the new SBS2008 domain.. >>>>> >>>>>Part way through the connect computer wizard it says that it has found >>>>>settings and documents belonging to users which it can import into the >>>>>new >>>>>user profile.. >>>>> >>>>>Well, problem number one is that it doesn't show me the name of the old >>>>>domain user...so I cannot select the required profile ?? >>>>> >>>>>All I get offered is: None and Administrator. >>>>> >>>>>So I had to select none and continue... >>>>> >>>>>When it finished and restarted a couple of times I finally logged onto >>>>>the >>>>>new domain...guess what ? >>>>> >>>>>I had a new profile called: Peter.domain instead of just: Peter >>>>> >>>>>This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid..! >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, lets back track a little, I suspect that whatever I do uing the >>>>>http://connect I'm going to end up with Peter.domain and not actually >>>>>be >>>>>using the single existing Peter profile from the old domain ? >>>>> >>>>>Maybe this is bearable *if* I can get it to transfer the documents and >>>>>settings from the Peter profile into Peter.domain profile. >>>>> >>>>>Anyone any ideas why Peter isn't showing in the drop down list ? >>>>> >>>>>Jim. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:ho7q22$2mb5$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>>>>> Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've Approved/Deployed it.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's see what happens now... >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>>>>>> OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is >>>>>>> currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> the http://connect connect computer wizard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> restarted the server.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> the wizard...same error message..?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails >>>>>>> if I >>>>>>> try to use the http://connect >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS >>>>>>> 2008 >>>>>>> domain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there >>>>>>> are no >>>>>>> new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas what to try next ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>>>>>>> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users >>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything >>>>>>>> intact >>>>>>>> in the same profile ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ie: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008 >>>>>>>> domain >>>>>>>> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do >>>>>>>> what I >>>>>>>> want ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server >>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar >>>>>>>> with it, >>>>>>>> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in >>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>> I know this may sound too simple >>>>>>>>> but from the PC go to http://connect >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and it works >>>>>>>>> Russ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >>>>>>>>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >>>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist >>>>>>>>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >>>>>>>>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com >>>>>>>>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - >>>>>>>>> www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it >>>>>>>>>> wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to >>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>>> the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the >>>>>>>>>> active >>>>>>>>>> directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and >>>>>>>>>> reimport >>>>>>>>>> it into the new server. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were >>>>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>>>> for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to >>>>>>>>>> perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to >>>>>>>>>> repointing >>>>>>>>>> the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then >>>>>>>>>> giving >>>>>>>>>> the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and >>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>> the original users profile under Documents and Settings. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends >>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the >>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the registry. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 >>>>>>>>>> ...and >>>>>>>>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So..Question time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a >>>>>>>>>> migration >>>>>>>>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> the data. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can >>>>>>>>>> we go >>>>>>>>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the >>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their >>>>>>>>>> applications >>>>>>>>>> setup and working exactly as they were before. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his >>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 >>>>>>>>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain' >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be >>>>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new >>>>>>>>>> profile. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> sucessfully ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jim. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > > |