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From: Jim on 19 Mar 2010 12:34 Hi All, In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it wasn't appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install the newly loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active directory and then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport it into the new server. Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing for server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to perform some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing the new user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving the new user permissions to the original users registry hive and also the original users profile under Documents and Settings. Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile. Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in the registry. ...This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all. We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all. So..Question time. If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all the data. Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle.. But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user are logged into their original profiles with all their applications setup and working exactly as they were before. ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7 machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain' These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new profile. Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this sucessfully ? Jim.
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 19 Mar 2010 15:34 I know this may sound too simple but from the PC go to http://connect and it works Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net... > Hi All, > > In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it wasn't > appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install the newly > loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active directory and > then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport it into the new > server. > > Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing for > server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to perform some > magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing the new user to the > old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving the new user > permissions to the original users registry hive and also the original > users profile under Documents and Settings. > > Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up logging > onto the new domain but into the original user profile. > > Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old > original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in the > registry. > > ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all. > > We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and it > wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all. > > So..Question time. > > If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration or > a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all the > data. > > Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle.. > > But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go > about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user are > logged into their original profiles with all their applications setup and > working exactly as they were before. > > ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7 > machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain' > > These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely > complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new profile. > > Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this > sucessfully ? > > Jim. > >
From: Jim on 19 Mar 2010 19:28 Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything intact in the same profile ? ie: We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain. We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008 domain and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do what I want ? And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server using exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ? Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I don't usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with it, only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..? Jim. "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com... > I know this may sound too simple > but from the PC go to http://connect > > and it works > Russ > > -- > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist > Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz > Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > > > "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message > news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net... >> Hi All, >> >> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it wasn't >> appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install the newly >> loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active directory and >> then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport it into the new >> server. >> >> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing for >> server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to perform >> some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing the new user >> to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving the new user >> permissions to the original users registry hive and also the original >> users profile under Documents and Settings. >> >> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up >> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile. >> >> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old >> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in the >> registry. >> >> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all. >> >> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and it >> wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all. >> >> So..Question time. >> >> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration or >> a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all the >> data. >> >> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle.. >> >> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go >> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user >> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications setup >> and working exactly as they were before. >> >> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7 >> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain' >> >> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely >> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new profile. >> >> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this >> sucessfully ? >> >> Jim. >> >>
From: Jim on 22 Mar 2010 08:40 OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain using the http://connect connect computer wizard. ...not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does not meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah.. I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and then restarted the server.. Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect through the wizard...same error message..?? I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails if I try to use the http://connect And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this will keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS 2008 domain. I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there are no new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever. Any ideas what to try next ? Jim. "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net... > Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old > domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything intact > in the same profile ? > > ie: > > We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain. > > We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008 domain > and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do what I > want ? > > And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server using > exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ? > > Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I don't > usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with it, > only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..? > > Jim. > > > > > "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message > news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com... >> I know this may sound too simple >> but from the PC go to http://connect >> >> and it works >> Russ >> >> -- >> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist >> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com >> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >> >> >> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>> Hi All, >>> >>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it wasn't >>> appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install the newly >>> loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active directory and >>> then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport it into the new >>> server. >>> >>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing for >>> server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to perform >>> some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing the new user >>> to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving the new user >>> permissions to the original users registry hive and also the original >>> users profile under Documents and Settings. >>> >>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up >>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile. >>> >>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old >>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in the >>> registry. >>> >>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all. >>> >>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and >>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all. >>> >>> So..Question time. >>> >>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration >>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all >>> the data. >>> >>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle.. >>> >>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go >>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user >>> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications >>> setup and working exactly as they were before. >>> >>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7 >>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain' >>> >>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely >>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new profile. >>> >>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this >>> sucessfully ? >>> >>> Jim. >>> >>>
From: Jim on 22 Mar 2010 09:07
Ahh...the update was awaiting Approval ??? I've Approved/Deployed it.. Let's see what happens now... Jim. "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message news:ho7og0$2jv1$1(a)energise.enta.net... > OK, am having a go at trying to connect a Windows 7 laptop which is > currently a member of an SBS2003 domain to a new SBS 2008 domain using the > http://connect connect computer wizard. > > ..not getting very far though...I've got the old 'Your computer does not > meet the maximum requirements' yaddah yaddah.. > > I've checked out the SBS 2008 blog and modified the GP.xml file and then > restarted the server.. > > Didn't seem to make any difference though, it still won't connect through > the wizard...same error message..?? > > I can join a Windows 7 machine to the server manually, it only fails if I > try to use the http://connect > > And I'm only trying to use this because you've suggested that this will > keep my user profile intact moving from an SBS 2003 domain to a SBS 2008 > domain. > > I've ran Windows Update on the SBS 2008 server, it says that there are no > new updates available, ie no SBS 2008 rollup 3 or whatever. > > Any ideas what to try next ? > > Jim. > > > > > > > > > "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message > news:ho11ao$1cj0$1(a)energise.enta.net... >> Russ, are you saying that by doing this it will migrate the users old >> domain profile from the old server to the new one with everything intact >> in the same profile ? >> >> ie: >> >> We have a Windows 7 machine joined to an SBS 2003 domain. >> >> We take it off the SBS 2003 domain and connect it to the SBS 2008 domain >> and then open the browser and type: http://connect and it will do what I >> want ? >> >> And I'll end up with the user connected to the new SBS 2008 server using >> exactly the same user profile as they were on the SBS 2003 server ? >> >> Are you sure ? I didn't think it could do that..?? that said I don't >> usually use that to connect client PC's so am not that familiar with it, >> only used it a few times. Perhaps I should use it more..? >> >> Jim. >> >> >> >> >> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message >> news:BB8D836D-EAD3-41C4-A691-3D742946A8E6(a)microsoft.com... >>> I know this may sound too simple >>> but from the PC go to http://connect >>> >>> and it works >>> Russ >>> >>> -- >>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] >>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC >>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist >>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz >>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com >>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com >>> >>> >>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message >>> news:ho092e$6o0$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> In the olden days when we used to do a server changeover, and it wasn't >>>> appropriate to do a swing or a migration, we used to install the newly >>>> loaded server with all the users setup anew in the active directory and >>>> then exmerge the mail from the old server and reimport it into the new >>>> server. >>>> >>>> Before we started having a go at SBS 2008 swings what we were doing for >>>> server changeover was as above and then on the PC's we had to perform >>>> some magical trickery in the registry regards to repointing the new >>>> user to the old users profile in 'ProfileList' and then giving the new >>>> user permissions to the original users registry hive and also the >>>> original users profile under Documents and Settings. >>>> >>>> Then we shut down and restart and then the new domain user ends up >>>> logging onto the new domain but into the original user profile. >>>> >>>> Then there was a bit of tidying up to do to make sure that the old >>>> original users profile placeholder was removed the 'ProfileList' in the >>>> registry. >>>> >>>> ..This works absolutely fine with Windows XP..no problems at all. >>>> >>>> We've had a few goes at this with Windows Vista and Windows 7 ...and >>>> it wasn't pretty and didn't seem to work at all. >>>> >>>> So..Question time. >>>> >>>> If you're changing out an SBS 2003 server, not going to do a migration >>>> or a swing, just putting a new SBS 2008 server in and reimporting all >>>> the data. >>>> >>>> Some users have got Windows XP...this will be a doddle.. >>>> >>>> But some users have got Windows Vista and Windows 7......how can we go >>>> about switching domains with these machines but ensuring that the user >>>> are logged into their original profiles with all their applications >>>> setup and working exactly as they were before. >>>> >>>> ie I want Peter logging into a profile called 'Peter' on his Windows 7 >>>> machine and not into a profile called 'Peter.Domain' >>>> >>>> These users have heavily customized profiles and it would be extremely >>>> complicated to setup all their applications over again in a new >>>> profile. >>>> >>>> Anyone any thoughts on how to approach this ? anyone been doing this >>>> sucessfully ? >>>> >>>> Jim. >>>> >>>> > > |