From: Joe#2 on
Actually Brian, adding the 4 terabytes is easier than you think. you just add
an aftermarket adaptor that plugs into your last memory slot, cut a hole in
the back of your server and start sringing them out. Of course you have to
set your server in front of the stairs to allow for the added height for
stacking. I'm guessing about 10 floors would be needed for 4 terabytes.

"Brian Cryer" wrote:

> "Joe#2" <Joe2(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B75372D1-9D1B-4532-A67F-4B9F80B52F49(a)microsoft.com...
> > All this time with SBS2003, weve had 4gigs of memory and did everything
> > inside of that, like it or not. 1 user or 75 users, ISA, SQL, or what
> > ever -
> > still 4 gigs.
> >
> > Now I am getting ready to migrate some users to SBS 2008 and can go to
> > what
> > 4 terabyes of memory? What would that be for, a replacement of a old Cray
> > computer!!!
>
> You find a motherboard that will let you install 4TB of RAM! (grin)
>
> > Anyway, Obviously I could still use 4 gigs on the new box, or inthe case
> > of
> > SQL, a new box with 4 gigs on it too.
> >
> > BUT! I always wonder, should I go with mayby 6gigs, or 12 gigs? It does
> > add
> > not a small cost to the customer.
>
> My experience with a low number of users (like with Charlie) is that 6GB
> seems to be a realistic minimum. I have 8GB in my SBS box but according to
> task manager its only using 6GB.
>
> Whether you need more than that depends on what you intend to be doing with
> it and how many users you have. If you are not sure then I suggest starting
> with 8GB but making sure that you have room to expand later to 16GB (or
> perhaps 32GB).
>
> > Those of you that have done SBS2008, generally speaking is there a sweet
> > spot that is really a minimum perhaps? From a PRACTICAL viewpoint, is
> > there a
> > reasonable figure to start out with?
>
> Less than 10 users I'd expect 8GB to be adequate (assuming no heavy third
> party aps on the server). Beyond that and I can't speak from experience
> (yet!)
> --
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
>
> .
>
From: Brian Cryer on
"Joe#2" <Joe2(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8EEE44BC-30A8-4E38-826C-AC498BB5E995(a)microsoft.com...
> Actually Brian, adding the 4 terabytes is easier than you think. you just
> add
> an aftermarket adaptor that plugs into your last memory slot, cut a hole
> in
> the back of your server and start sringing them out. Of course you have to
> set your server in front of the stairs to allow for the added height for
> stacking. I'm guessing about 10 floors would be needed for 4 terabytes.

LOL!
--
Brian Cryer
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

From: Cliff Galiher - MVP on
I've found that SBS "runs" on 8 gigs. But even in a test lab with no users,
the performance difference between 8 and 12 is significant. Realistically
that means for regular use without regular reboots, I recommend 16 as a good
sweet spot for accommodating near-term growth.

--
Cliff Galiher
Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it
out!
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.

From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on
Cliff if you tweak your SQL usage from running away and you can get it to
run at 6 consistently :)
Even with 10 or more users
Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com
Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Support Forum - SBSRepair.com

"Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgaliher(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0DE13BCA-1387-41C0-BBEA-C2AB3852B734(a)microsoft.com...
> I've found that SBS "runs" on 8 gigs. But even in a test lab with no
> users, the performance difference between 8 and 12 is significant.
> Realistically that means for regular use without regular reboots, I
> recommend 16 as a good sweet spot for accommodating near-term growth.
>
> --
> Cliff Galiher
> Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it
> out!
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
> Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.

From: Pangaea Computing Systems on
On Jun 19, 11:22 am, "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]"
<r...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote:
> Cliff  if you tweak your SQL usage from running away and you can get it to
> run at 6 consistently :)
> Even with 10 or more users
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Small Business Server/Computer Support -www.SBITS.Biz
> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services -www.BPOSMadeEasy.com
> Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Support Forum - SBSRepair.com
>
> "Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgali...(a)gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:0DE13BCA-1387-41C0-BBEA-C2AB3852B734(a)microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> > I've found that SBS "runs" on 8 gigs. But even in a test lab with no
> > users, the performance difference between 8 and 12 is significant.
> > Realistically that means for regular use without regular reboots, I
> > recommend 16 as a good sweet spot for accommodating near-term growth.
>
> > --
> > Cliff Galiher
> > Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet!  Check it
> > out!
> >http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/...
> > Addicted to newsgroups?  Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.

Guys;
I have carefully observed SBS08 servers with Exchange & SQL. Both with
about 10 users. I did use 8GB... but I went to 12Gb and the servers
run much better. Less caching to disk.
Note: that modern motherboards use memory in pairs or in triplets. If
you have a Core i 7 or Nehalem (LGA 1366) server then you will have a
minimum of 6GB. The next jump will be to 12GB anyway. If it is an LGA
1156 server then memory is used in pairs and 2GB sticks are the best
price point for DDR3 memory. So you progress from 4GB,8GB or 12GB etc.

You MUST consider that if the customer wants to expand in the future,
you may not find compatible memory at a good price point. In short:
get that memory now. 3 years from now your customer will love you.
Rafi