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From: Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP] on 21 Jun 2010 21:07
hmm? I still would never put a PC CPU in a Server
Because most times the Motherboard for a PC Chip is not designed to run 24/7
like a server
(But like a PC. 8-12 hours)
Oh well Another Difference of Opinion
Thanks
Russ

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"Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2689b1548bd094de98969c(a)us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <4C69F3B0-27B4-4271-8E6A-3A38A0663C81(a)microsoft.com>,
> russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says...
>>
>> So there are i7 "Servers" that are really servers?
>> not PC's Pretending to be Servers?
>> ????
>> Russ
>
> The key differences between the i7 series and the Xeon series is:
>
> Xeon has more cores, with the exception the lowest end CPU version which
> have 4 cores, most have 6 or 8 cores.
>
> Xeon has more cache - 12mb to 24mb of cache as opposed to 8mb
>
> With that being said, a cheaper CPU, say Dual Quad Core CPU's, will
> often be a better solution than a single CPU 8 Core CPU solution.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

From: Pangaea Computing Systems on 22 Jun 2010 06:58
On Jun 22, 1:27 am, Leythos <spam999f...(a)rrohio.com> wrote:
> In article <4C69F3B0-27B4-4271-8E6A-3A38A0663...(a)microsoft.com>,
> r...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says...
>
>
>
> > So there are i7 "Servers" that are really servers?
> > not PC's Pretending to be Servers?
> > ????
> > Russ
>
> The key differences between the i7 series and the Xeon series is:
>
> Xeon has more cores, with the exception the lowest end CPU version which
> have 4 cores, most have 6 or 8 cores.
>
> Xeon has more cache - 12mb to 24mb of cache as opposed to 8mb
>
> With that being said, a cheaper CPU, say Dual Quad Core CPU's, will
> often be a better solution than a single CPU 8 Core CPU solution.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.  
> Trust yourself.
> spam999f...(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Thanks Guys for answering Russ.

I said Core i7 because some server makers have adopted the Intel X58
Chipset even though it is not on the server roadmap. Nehalem &
Westmere.

When a customer is thinking about 4 or 6GB to save money... it does
not seem they would be in the market for a DUAL server so I did not
dream of mentioning Westmere. (For Nehalem / Westmere the practical
min memory is 2Gb x3 sticks x2 CPUs or 12GB.)

BTW: IMHO on of the strongest single CPU platforms are based on the
Intel 3420 Chipset. For example the Tyan S5502 Motherboard. Note: this
LGA1156 and you can use Xeon 3400 Sequence CPUs but it will ASLO run
Core i3.

Cheers, Rafi

From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 23 Jun 2010 05:30
Just because a Manufacture calls a Box a Server Doesn't mean it is one...
(Remember they all have this "Lowest priced Server on the Market" as a Sales
Montra)

When it is just a PC with a Sticker on it.

All I'm saying is A REAL Server has specific Design differences in it
compared to a PC.
With a properly designed Server with 8GB you shouldn't need to cache to to
drives for RAM.

That's all
Russ

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"Pangaea Computing Systems" <repand(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:75b5732f-ee90-4c95-b842-079e0a5254a5(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 1:27 am, Leythos <spam999f...(a)rrohio.com> wrote:
>> In article <4C69F3B0-27B4-4271-8E6A-3A38A0663...(a)microsoft.com>,
>> r...(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says...
>>
>>
>>
>> > So there are i7 "Servers" that are really servers?
>> > not PC's Pretending to be Servers?
>> > ????
>> > Russ
>>
>> The key differences between the i7 series and the Xeon series is:
>>
>> Xeon has more cores, with the exception the lowest end CPU version which
>> have 4 cores, most have 6 or 8 cores.
>>
>> Xeon has more cache - 12mb to 24mb of cache as opposed to 8mb
>>
>> With that being said, a cheaper CPU, say Dual Quad Core CPU's, will
>> often be a better solution than a single CPU 8 Core CPU solution.
>>
>> --
>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
>> Trust yourself.
>> spam999f...(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
>
> Thanks Guys for answering Russ.
>
> I said Core i7 because some server makers have adopted the Intel X58
> Chipset even though it is not on the server roadmap. Nehalem &
> Westmere.
>
> When a customer is thinking about 4 or 6GB to save money... it does
> not seem they would be in the market for a DUAL server so I did not
> dream of mentioning Westmere. (For Nehalem / Westmere the practical
> min memory is 2Gb x3 sticks x2 CPUs or 12GB.)
>
> BTW: IMHO on of the strongest single CPU platforms are based on the
> Intel 3420 Chipset. For example the Tyan S5502 Motherboard. Note: this
> LGA1156 and you can use Xeon 3400 Sequence CPUs but it will ASLO run
> Core i3.
>
> Cheers, Rafi
>
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