From: Jim on
Mailbox is nearly 9GB and contains all mail in or out of the business for
the last two and a half years.

I appreciate that this might have to change in the future.

I'll check out the GPO settings on the Windows 2008 TS and see what they are
already set to.



"Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
wrote in message news:2iqns5teko76pm81vioponna5d9g4eh5ff(a)4ax.com...
> I see you've been busy. Unfortunate the articles didn't help you.
>
> I understand your frustration that it "all worked before SBS 2008." As
> the articles indicated, SBS 2008, which uses Exchange 2007, works
> differently. I haven't used Terminal Services to test this, but I
> assume since you are possibly using Termional Services on the 2008 box
> itself, may be a factor since the policy settings may already be
> default, which are the ones mentioned in that link I provided that
> need to be set for the workstations.
>
> Policies in this respect, are Group Policies, or known as Group Policy
> Objects (GPOs). I apologize for the assumption you were aware of what
> they are. They can be a little tricky to set if you are not familiar
> with it or the first time seeing them. There is a Group Policy
> Management Console (GPMC) that the settings can be made. However, as
> implied, I do not recommend making these changes without some
> familiarity. Do you have a qualified IT admin you can contract to take
> care of this for you?
>
> Curioua, how large is that mailbox? And I don't mean number of
> messages, rather how many Gigabytes is it? You can right-click on the
> Mailbox, choose properties, and look at the folder properties.
>
> Ace
>
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:16:37 +0100, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>If I setup another mailbox with just over 5000 items in it as per
>>Microsoft's recommendations regards maintaining a maximum number of items
>>of
>>between 3500 - 5000 items in a single folder:
>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905803
>>
>>Then it does seem to work OK from a Windows XP PC with Outlook 2003.
>>
>>So looks like it's down to the number of items in a single folder..
>>
>>But it worked OK on Exchange 2003 and it still works OK from Outlook 2003
>>on
>>the Windows 2008 TS.
>>
>>Seems that Windows XP and Outlook 2003 are not happy bedfellows for
>>Exchange
>>2007 where large mailboxes are concerned ?
>>
>>Hmm..
>>
>>
>>
>>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>news:hqebtl$1puv$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>> As a quick test and to rule out any network performance issues, I logged
>>> onto my test Windows XP PC as the MailArchive user and accessed the mail
>>> box in online mode and cached mode.
>>>
>>> This *does* seem to work fine on the Windows XP PC.
>>>
>>> So the only thing that seems not to be working is when you try and
>>> access
>>> the large MailArchive mailbox as an additional mailbox in an Outlook
>>> 2003
>>> profile from a Windows XP PC.
>>>
>>> If you're on the Windows 2008 TS then it seem to work OK, need to check
>>> with a Windows 7 PC at some stage...
>>>
>>> So it seems that it is something to do with the indexing or accessing a
>>> large additional mailbox from a Windows XP PC in Outlook 2003.
>>>
>>> Also need to try a mailbox with a lesser number of items as this may be
>>> the main culprit. Funny how it works OK from the Windows 2008 TS though,
>>> I'm sure I'll get bashed over the head with that.. :-(
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hqd16p$2q9i$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>> OK Ace,
>>>>
>>>> I've read both articles again....still a bit confused..
>>>>
>>>> What we have are predominantly Windows XP SP3 PC's with Outlook 2003
>>>> SP3
>>>>
>>>> On their previous SBS 2003 setup Outlook 2003 was configured in the
>>>> default
>>>> configuration , ie the users own mailbox was in cached mode and they
>>>> had
>>>> a number of
>>>> other users mailboxes in their folders lists including the MailArchive
>>>> mailbox which obviously with Outlook 2003 were uncached.
>>>>
>>>> When the users wanted to search for an item in the MailArchive mailbox
>>>> Inbox
>>>> they selected the inbox typed in a search criteria and then clicked the
>>>> 'Find
>>>> Now' button, the little magnifying glass then started to animate
>>>> indicating search progress.
>>>>
>>>> Outlook 2003 then started to return results almost immediately until
>>>> the
>>>> search was complete.
>>>>
>>>> Now what is happening since they have upgraded to SBS 2008 is that when
>>>> they
>>>> select the MailArchive mailbox Inbox folder in their Outlook 2003
>>>> program
>>>> first of
>>>> all it often takes a very long time to even display the initial content
>>>> of the Inbox.
>>>> ie when they select the Inbox they get an hour glass for some
>>>> considerable
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> Previously they were not experiencing this behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Once the initial content is displayed and they enter some search
>>>> criteria
>>>> and then click on 'Find Now' button, again they get an hour glass
>>>> cursor
>>>> which
>>>> can last up to ten minutes and the magnifying glass icon does not
>>>> animate
>>>> at all.
>>>> Very shortly after starting the search a message comes up on the bottom
>>>> left
>>>> hand corner of Outlook 2003 saying: "Microsoft Outlook is requesting
>>>> data
>>>> from the server.."
>>>> It's as if the whole thing has hung.
>>>>
>>>> If they click anything else in Outlook it then says Microsoft Outlook
>>>> (Not Responding) in the title bar.
>>>>
>>>> Previously they were not experiencing this behavior.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to make no difference if I'm in online mode or cached mode or
>>>> if
>>>> I
>>>> install and configure the WDS 4.0 ( though not convinced I have this
>>>> setup properly yet )
>>>>
>>>> Now strangely....if I logon to the Windows 2008 Terminal Server which
>>>> has
>>>> Outlook 2003 installed and configured in online mode and then search
>>>> the
>>>> MailArchive Inbox then I do not get this behavior,
>>>> it all works really quickly, search completes in about 5 -10 seconds.
>>>>
>>>> If I change Outlook 2003 to cached mode the magnifying glass still
>>>> animates
>>>> but searches of the MailArchive Inbox are marginally slower, about
>>>> 10 -20
>>>> seconds
>>>>
>>>> I can't see any indexing service enabled on the Windows 2008 TS box ?
>>>>
>>>> It is running IPV6 whereas all the XP PC's are not, could this be
>>>> something ?
>>>>
>>>> If I understand what's being said in the articles if I am using Windows
>>>> XP and Outlook 2003
>>>> with SBS 2008 with Exchange Search Indexer enabled then to start with I
>>>> should be configured in online mode and I should also install WDS 4.0
>>>> on
>>>> all XP PC's ?
>>>>
>>>> And where should I be configuring the Search policies ? on the SBS 2008
>>>> server or on the local Windows XP PC ?
>>>>
>>>> And what policy setting ought I be choosing if I'm using Outlook 2003
>>>> as
>>>> opposed to Outlook 2007 as most of the stuff is Outlook 2007 related as
>>>> far as I can make out ?
>>>>
>>>> Something isn't right but I must agree with you I probably don't have
>>>> the
>>>> right Windows XP, Outlook 2003 and WDS 4.0 environment configured
>>>> properly yet.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm unsure as to exactly what to do.
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in
>>>> message news:eHLRIjk3KHA.5084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hqbspv$11g7$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>> Hi Ace,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The user has a mailbox of around 4000 items and can search their own
>>>>>> mailbox
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The MailArchive is an additional ActiveDirectory user/mailbox which
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> user
>>>>>> in question has full access to grated within the ESM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MailArchive mailbox contains over 60,000 items in the single Inbox
>>>>>> folder, I
>>>>>> know it's a lot but it worked absolutely fine before on SBS 2003 with
>>>>>> Exchange 2003, it's only become a problem since the upgrade to SBS
>>>>>> 2008.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've installed WDS 4.0 and set the local GPO to allow indexing of
>>>>>> online
>>>>>> delegate mailboxes, makes no difference at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've now found quite a few posts which appear to suggest that I
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> consider disabling Exchange Search Indexer on the server itself and
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> will return performance back to Exchange 2003 levels which from an
>>>>>> Outlook
>>>>>> 2003 client on a PC should be much better, but apparently this would
>>>>>> cause
>>>>>> searches from OWA and mobile activesync devices and Windows Live to
>>>>>> suffer
>>>>>> as they make user of the new Exchange Search Indexer service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uhh...like which do you think I would prefer working better ?....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996416.aspx#Mbxserver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I've just disabled the Exchange Search Indexer as per the
>>>>>> Technet
>>>>>> article and am rebooting the server to see how it goes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be honest I guess I could have gone with just disabling it on this
>>>>>> particular MailArchive mailbox I guess but lets see how this pans out
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I really need to get the number of items in it sorted out, but
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> customer really wants to know why their new more powerful server
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> offer a much slower experience than their old one !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW I don't think it's user related any more, it searches slowly
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Administrator account on the XP Pro PC as well from time to time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't disable it on the server. Don't make too many changes, leave it
>>>>> default.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I've previously mentioned, it is due to being a delegate of the
>>>>> mailbox. THe settings are Outlook specific because of the delegated
>>>>> mailbox. Since the mailbox doesn't belong to the user, and the user is
>>>>> a
>>>>> delegate, it is an Outlook setting, not on the server side.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can enable this in the Group Policy settings for Windows Search.
>>>>> The
>>>>> settings are:
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable Indexing of online delegate Mailboxes (This is for non-cached
>>>>> mode Outlook profiles)
>>>>> - Supported on: Any version of Microsoft Windows with Windows Search
>>>>> 4.0
>>>>> or later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable Indexing uncached Exchange Folders
>>>>> - Supported on: Windows XP, Windows Server 2003 with Windows Search
>>>>> 3.01
>>>>> or later.
>>>>> - If enabled, mail items on a Microsoft Exchange Server are indexed
>>>>> when
>>>>> Microsoft Outlook is not running in cached mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read more about these settings in the following article:
>>>>>
>>>>> Group Policy for Windows Search
>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732491(WS.10).aspx
>>>>>
>>>>> There is more info at the following link explaining this (which I've
>>>>> previously posted):
>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/mikelag/archive/2009/05/04/windows-desktop-search-and-the-implications-on-wan-performance.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ace
>>>>>
>>>>>
From: Jim on
Which policy items do you suggest that I enable on the local XP 'Search'
policy ?

On the local XP test PC I'm looking at the one under:

Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative
Templates\Windows Components\Search

By the looks of things it looks like I ought to enable:


Enable indexing uncached Exchange folders - Enabled

Enable indexing of online delagate folders - Enabled


Does anything else need to be set ?

After I've set this then how long ought I to wait before I would expect this
to make any difference ? hours ?

And also, where ought I to be searching for the Windows Search indexed
results ?

Should I be doing a normal 'Find Now' search in Outlook ? or does this still
not work ?

Or should I be typing things in the 'Search Desktop' tool on the taskbar ?




"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
news:hqh101$2rie$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> Mailbox is nearly 9GB and contains all mail in or out of the business for
> the last two and a half years.
>
> I appreciate that this might have to change in the future.
>
> I'll check out the GPO settings on the Windows 2008 TS and see what they
> are already set to.
>
>
>
> "Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
> wrote in message news:2iqns5teko76pm81vioponna5d9g4eh5ff(a)4ax.com...
>> I see you've been busy. Unfortunate the articles didn't help you.
>>
>> I understand your frustration that it "all worked before SBS 2008." As
>> the articles indicated, SBS 2008, which uses Exchange 2007, works
>> differently. I haven't used Terminal Services to test this, but I
>> assume since you are possibly using Termional Services on the 2008 box
>> itself, may be a factor since the policy settings may already be
>> default, which are the ones mentioned in that link I provided that
>> need to be set for the workstations.
>>
>> Policies in this respect, are Group Policies, or known as Group Policy
>> Objects (GPOs). I apologize for the assumption you were aware of what
>> they are. They can be a little tricky to set if you are not familiar
>> with it or the first time seeing them. There is a Group Policy
>> Management Console (GPMC) that the settings can be made. However, as
>> implied, I do not recommend making these changes without some
>> familiarity. Do you have a qualified IT admin you can contract to take
>> care of this for you?
>>
>> Curioua, how large is that mailbox? And I don't mean number of
>> messages, rather how many Gigabytes is it? You can right-click on the
>> Mailbox, choose properties, and look at the folder properties.
>>
>> Ace
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:16:37 +0100, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>If I setup another mailbox with just over 5000 items in it as per
>>>Microsoft's recommendations regards maintaining a maximum number of items
>>>of
>>>between 3500 - 5000 items in a single folder:
>>>
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905803
>>>
>>>Then it does seem to work OK from a Windows XP PC with Outlook 2003.
>>>
>>>So looks like it's down to the number of items in a single folder..
>>>
>>>But it worked OK on Exchange 2003 and it still works OK from Outlook 2003
>>>on
>>>the Windows 2008 TS.
>>>
>>>Seems that Windows XP and Outlook 2003 are not happy bedfellows for
>>>Exchange
>>>2007 where large mailboxes are concerned ?
>>>
>>>Hmm..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hqebtl$1puv$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>> As a quick test and to rule out any network performance issues, I
>>>> logged
>>>> onto my test Windows XP PC as the MailArchive user and accessed the
>>>> mail
>>>> box in online mode and cached mode.
>>>>
>>>> This *does* seem to work fine on the Windows XP PC.
>>>>
>>>> So the only thing that seems not to be working is when you try and
>>>> access
>>>> the large MailArchive mailbox as an additional mailbox in an Outlook
>>>> 2003
>>>> profile from a Windows XP PC.
>>>>
>>>> If you're on the Windows 2008 TS then it seem to work OK, need to check
>>>> with a Windows 7 PC at some stage...
>>>>
>>>> So it seems that it is something to do with the indexing or accessing a
>>>> large additional mailbox from a Windows XP PC in Outlook 2003.
>>>>
>>>> Also need to try a mailbox with a lesser number of items as this may be
>>>> the main culprit. Funny how it works OK from the Windows 2008 TS
>>>> though,
>>>> I'm sure I'll get bashed over the head with that.. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hqd16p$2q9i$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>> OK Ace,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've read both articles again....still a bit confused..
>>>>>
>>>>> What we have are predominantly Windows XP SP3 PC's with Outlook 2003
>>>>> SP3
>>>>>
>>>>> On their previous SBS 2003 setup Outlook 2003 was configured in the
>>>>> default
>>>>> configuration , ie the users own mailbox was in cached mode and they
>>>>> had
>>>>> a number of
>>>>> other users mailboxes in their folders lists including the MailArchive
>>>>> mailbox which obviously with Outlook 2003 were uncached.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the users wanted to search for an item in the MailArchive mailbox
>>>>> Inbox
>>>>> they selected the inbox typed in a search criteria and then clicked
>>>>> the
>>>>> 'Find
>>>>> Now' button, the little magnifying glass then started to animate
>>>>> indicating search progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> Outlook 2003 then started to return results almost immediately until
>>>>> the
>>>>> search was complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now what is happening since they have upgraded to SBS 2008 is that
>>>>> when
>>>>> they
>>>>> select the MailArchive mailbox Inbox folder in their Outlook 2003
>>>>> program
>>>>> first of
>>>>> all it often takes a very long time to even display the initial
>>>>> content
>>>>> of the Inbox.
>>>>> ie when they select the Inbox they get an hour glass for some
>>>>> considerable
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously they were not experiencing this behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once the initial content is displayed and they enter some search
>>>>> criteria
>>>>> and then click on 'Find Now' button, again they get an hour glass
>>>>> cursor
>>>>> which
>>>>> can last up to ten minutes and the magnifying glass icon does not
>>>>> animate
>>>>> at all.
>>>>> Very shortly after starting the search a message comes up on the
>>>>> bottom
>>>>> left
>>>>> hand corner of Outlook 2003 saying: "Microsoft Outlook is requesting
>>>>> data
>>>>> from the server.."
>>>>> It's as if the whole thing has hung.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they click anything else in Outlook it then says Microsoft Outlook
>>>>> (Not Responding) in the title bar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously they were not experiencing this behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to make no difference if I'm in online mode or cached mode or
>>>>> if
>>>>> I
>>>>> install and configure the WDS 4.0 ( though not convinced I have this
>>>>> setup properly yet )
>>>>>
>>>>> Now strangely....if I logon to the Windows 2008 Terminal Server which
>>>>> has
>>>>> Outlook 2003 installed and configured in online mode and then search
>>>>> the
>>>>> MailArchive Inbox then I do not get this behavior,
>>>>> it all works really quickly, search completes in about 5 -10 seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I change Outlook 2003 to cached mode the magnifying glass still
>>>>> animates
>>>>> but searches of the MailArchive Inbox are marginally slower, about
>>>>> 10 -20
>>>>> seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't see any indexing service enabled on the Windows 2008 TS box ?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is running IPV6 whereas all the XP PC's are not, could this be
>>>>> something ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I understand what's being said in the articles if I am using
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> XP and Outlook 2003
>>>>> with SBS 2008 with Exchange Search Indexer enabled then to start with
>>>>> I
>>>>> should be configured in online mode and I should also install WDS 4.0
>>>>> on
>>>>> all XP PC's ?
>>>>>
>>>>> And where should I be configuring the Search policies ? on the SBS
>>>>> 2008
>>>>> server or on the local Windows XP PC ?
>>>>>
>>>>> And what policy setting ought I be choosing if I'm using Outlook 2003
>>>>> as
>>>>> opposed to Outlook 2007 as most of the stuff is Outlook 2007 related
>>>>> as
>>>>> far as I can make out ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Something isn't right but I must agree with you I probably don't have
>>>>> the
>>>>> right Windows XP, Outlook 2003 and WDS 4.0 environment configured
>>>>> properly yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'm unsure as to exactly what to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in
>>>>> message news:eHLRIjk3KHA.5084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hqbspv$11g7$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>>>>> Hi Ace,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The user has a mailbox of around 4000 items and can search their own
>>>>>>> mailbox
>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The MailArchive is an additional ActiveDirectory user/mailbox which
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> in question has full access to grated within the ESM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MailArchive mailbox contains over 60,000 items in the single Inbox
>>>>>>> folder, I
>>>>>>> know it's a lot but it worked absolutely fine before on SBS 2003
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Exchange 2003, it's only become a problem since the upgrade to SBS
>>>>>>> 2008.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've installed WDS 4.0 and set the local GPO to allow indexing of
>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>> delegate mailboxes, makes no difference at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've now found quite a few posts which appear to suggest that I
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> consider disabling Exchange Search Indexer on the server itself and
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> will return performance back to Exchange 2003 levels which from an
>>>>>>> Outlook
>>>>>>> 2003 client on a PC should be much better, but apparently this would
>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>> searches from OWA and mobile activesync devices and Windows Live to
>>>>>>> suffer
>>>>>>> as they make user of the new Exchange Search Indexer service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uhh...like which do you think I would prefer working better ?....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996416.aspx#Mbxserver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, I've just disabled the Exchange Search Indexer as per the
>>>>>>> Technet
>>>>>>> article and am rebooting the server to see how it goes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be honest I guess I could have gone with just disabling it on
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> particular MailArchive mailbox I guess but lets see how this pans
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know I really need to get the number of items in it sorted out,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> customer really wants to know why their new more powerful server
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> offer a much slower experience than their old one !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW I don't think it's user related any more, it searches slowly
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Administrator account on the XP Pro PC as well from time to time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't disable it on the server. Don't make too many changes, leave it
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I've previously mentioned, it is due to being a delegate of the
>>>>>> mailbox. THe settings are Outlook specific because of the delegated
>>>>>> mailbox. Since the mailbox doesn't belong to the user, and the user
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> delegate, it is an Outlook setting, not on the server side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can enable this in the Group Policy settings for Windows Search.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> settings are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enable Indexing of online delegate Mailboxes (This is for non-cached
>>>>>> mode Outlook profiles)
>>>>>> - Supported on: Any version of Microsoft Windows with Windows Search
>>>>>> 4.0
>>>>>> or later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enable Indexing uncached Exchange Folders
>>>>>> - Supported on: Windows XP, Windows Server 2003 with Windows Search
>>>>>> 3.01
>>>>>> or later.
>>>>>> - If enabled, mail items on a Microsoft Exchange Server are indexed
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> Microsoft Outlook is not running in cached mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can read more about these settings in the following article:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Group Policy for Windows Search
>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732491(WS.10).aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is more info at the following link explaining this (which I've
>>>>>> previously posted):
>>>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/mikelag/archive/2009/05/04/windows-desktop-search-and-the-implications-on-wan-performance.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ace
>>>>>>
>>>>>>


From: Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services] on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:54:22 +0100, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
wrote:

>Which policy items do you suggest that I enable on the local XP 'Search'
>policy ?
>
>On the local XP test PC I'm looking at the one under:
>
>Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative
>Templates\Windows Components\Search
>
>By the looks of things it looks like I ought to enable:
>
>
>Enable indexing uncached Exchange folders - Enabled
>
>Enable indexing of online delagate folders - Enabled
>
>
>Does anything else need to be set ?
>
>After I've set this then how long ought I to wait before I would expect this
>to make any difference ? hours ?
>
>And also, where ought I to be searching for the Windows Search indexed
>results ?
>
>Should I be doing a normal 'Find Now' search in Outlook ? or does this still
>not work ?
>
>Or should I be typing things in the 'Search Desktop' tool on the taskbar ?
>
>
>
>


They are the two settings the articled suggested. It was also
suggested to use a GPO, not the local policy on the machine.

Give it a shot and see how it works out. To refresh any policy
changes, you can run:

gpupdate /force

The results should be available when you click on Find Now in Outlook.

Ace
From: Jim on
OK, so I don't have to get to grips with that rather unwieldy looking
Windows Desktop Search interface... :-)



"Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
wrote in message news:bdoos55f3lil0o40olgjjcc6nalo6ss68r(a)4ax.com...
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:54:22 +0100, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Which policy items do you suggest that I enable on the local XP 'Search'
>>policy ?
>>
>>On the local XP test PC I'm looking at the one under:
>>
>>Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative
>>Templates\Windows Components\Search
>>
>>By the looks of things it looks like I ought to enable:
>>
>>
>>Enable indexing uncached Exchange folders - Enabled
>>
>>Enable indexing of online delagate folders - Enabled
>>
>>
>>Does anything else need to be set ?
>>
>>After I've set this then how long ought I to wait before I would expect
>>this
>>to make any difference ? hours ?
>>
>>And also, where ought I to be searching for the Windows Search indexed
>>results ?
>>
>>Should I be doing a normal 'Find Now' search in Outlook ? or does this
>>still
>>not work ?
>>
>>Or should I be typing things in the 'Search Desktop' tool on the taskbar ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> They are the two settings the articled suggested. It was also
> suggested to use a GPO, not the local policy on the machine.
>
> Give it a shot and see how it works out. To refresh any policy
> changes, you can run:
>
> gpupdate /force
>
> The results should be available when you click on Find Now in Outlook.
>
> Ace

From: Jim on
Some more useful info, I understood this one a bit better :-)

http://www.exchangeninjas.com/ExchangeSearchFAQ

Jim.



"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
news:hqi7g7$1m78$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> OK, so I don't have to get to grips with that rather unwieldy looking
> Windows Desktop Search interface... :-)
>
>
>
> "Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
> wrote in message news:bdoos55f3lil0o40olgjjcc6nalo6ss68r(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:54:22 +0100, "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Which policy items do you suggest that I enable on the local XP 'Search'
>>>policy ?
>>>
>>>On the local XP test PC I'm looking at the one under:
>>>
>>>Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative
>>>Templates\Windows Components\Search
>>>
>>>By the looks of things it looks like I ought to enable:
>>>
>>>
>>>Enable indexing uncached Exchange folders - Enabled
>>>
>>>Enable indexing of online delagate folders - Enabled
>>>
>>>
>>>Does anything else need to be set ?
>>>
>>>After I've set this then how long ought I to wait before I would expect
>>>this
>>>to make any difference ? hours ?
>>>
>>>And also, where ought I to be searching for the Windows Search indexed
>>>results ?
>>>
>>>Should I be doing a normal 'Find Now' search in Outlook ? or does this
>>>still
>>>not work ?
>>>
>>>Or should I be typing things in the 'Search Desktop' tool on the taskbar
>>>?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> They are the two settings the articled suggested. It was also
>> suggested to use a GPO, not the local policy on the machine.
>>
>> Give it a shot and see how it works out. To refresh any policy
>> changes, you can run:
>>
>> gpupdate /force
>>
>> The results should be available when you click on Find Now in Outlook.
>>
>> Ace
>