From: kenseto on
On Mar 22, 6:37 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mar 19, 10:26 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
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> > SR/GR use absolute time to synchronize the GPS clocks with the ground
> > clock as follows:
> > 1. A standard clock second is defined to have 9,192,631,770 periods of
> > Cs 133 radiation or N periods of Cs 133 radiation.
> > 2. Before a GPS clock is launched into orbit its clock second is
> > redefined to have (N +4.15) periods of Cs 133 radiation. This means
> > that while in orbit a GPS second is defined to have (N+4.15) periods
> > of Cs 133 radiation.
> > 3. The reason for the redefinition of the GPS second is to make (N
> > +4.15) periods of Cs 133 radiation at the GPS orbiting location to
> > contain the same amount of absolute time as N periods of Cs 133
> > radiation on the ground clock.
> > 4. The redefined GPS second makes the GPS clock in synch with the
> > ground clock continuously. The only daily adjustment is to correct the
> > daily drifts.
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> > Ken Seto
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> xxein:  Ever hear of time dilation?  NOT the same as Doppler shift.
> When you figure this out you will understand something more of gravity
> and motion within it.  But I doubt it.

Hey idiot time dilation got nothing to do with this discussion.


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From: eric gisse on
kenseto wrote:

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> Hey idiot the rate of a clock moving wrt you is at 1/gamma at all
> times.

At what point will you finally give up?
From: Michael Moroney on
kenseto <kenseto(a)erinet.com> writes:

>Hey idiot time dilation got nothing to do with this discussion.

Time dilation has *everything* to do with this discussion. Time dilation
would cause the GPS satellite to "transmit" at the wrong frequency (as
far as a terrestial receiver is concerned), so they adjusted the frequency
before launch so it would at the correct frequency on Earth.
From: Michael Moroney on
kenseto <kenseto(a)erinet.com> writes:

>Let me expain to you once again: In SR the rate of a clock moving wrt
>you is 1/gamma at all time. The GPS clock sends sends a signal to the
>ground clock after the passage of N+4.15 periods of Cs 133
>radiation....when the ground clock receives this signal it will know
>that the passage of N periods of Cs 133 radiation on its clock have
>taken place.

Yes, just like the train horn. The approaching train has to sound at a
frequency lower than 440 Hz to be heard at the station as 440 Hz, while a
departing train has to sound at a higher frequency to be heard as 440 Hz.

Same effect, different causes.
From: Androcles on

"Michael Moroney" <moroney(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
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> kenseto <kenseto(a)erinet.com> writes:
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>>Hey idiot time dilation got nothing to do with this discussion.
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> Time dilation has *everything* to do with this discussion. Time dilation
> would cause the GPS satellite to "transmit" at the wrong frequency (as
> far as a terrestial receiver is concerned), so they adjusted the frequency
> before launch so it would at the correct frequency on Earth.

Bullshitting fuckwit!