From: Woody on
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>> It would be pretty easy to do. The thing that makes it easy to do
> > > > on OSX
>>>> server is that the same tools are used on all OSXs, whereas other
>>>> servers have varying types of monitoring software, so it would have
> > > > to
>>>> be a lot more flexible.
>>>
>>> What do you reckon? £1000 worth of development?
>>
>> That's not very many day's worth.
>
> Well Woody did say 'pretty easy'.
>
Weird, I replied to this earlier. Well, I guess it is not going to come
out now as my MacBook is in the bath applecenter.

For the mac version, I would think a couple of weeks, assuming that it
doesn't do anything that is non obvious on the screenshots. Assuming a
familiarity with iPhone dev etc.
For a non mac version, quite a bit longer, unless you can find some
server monitoring software already made for these servers, then it
should be no harder than the Mac version

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Woody
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:24:24 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2010-06-19 09:58:37 +0100, D.M. Procida said:
>
>> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/server-admin-remote/id300347476?mt=8>
>>>>
>>>> This looks really neat. If a similar prgram could be created to manage
>>>> the same services on other operating systems (I presume such a thing
>>>> doesn't already exist), that would be even better.
>>>
>>> It would be pretty easy to do. The thing that makes it easy to do on OSX
>>> server is that the same tools are used on all OSXs, whereas other
>>> servers have varying types of monitoring software, so it would have to
>>> be a lot more flexible.
>>
>> What do you reckon? �1000 worth of development?
>
>That's not very many day's worth.

One and a quarter round our way. Likely not to include QA at that sort
of price.

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Woody on
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:24:24 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-19 09:58:37 +0100, D.M. Procida said:
>>
>>> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/server-admin-remote/id300347476?mt=8>
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks really neat. If a similar prgram could be created to
> > > > > manage
>>>>> the same services on other operating systems (I presume such a
> > > > > thing
>>>>> doesn't already exist), that would be even better.
>>>>
>>>> It would be pretty easy to do. The thing that makes it easy to do
> > > > on OSX
>>>> server is that the same tools are used on all OSXs, whereas other
>>>> servers have varying types of monitoring software, so it would have
> > > > to
>>>> be a lot more flexible.
>>>
>>> What do you reckon? £1000 worth of development?
>>
>> That's not very many day's worth.
>
> One and a quarter round our way. Likely not to include QA at that sort
of price.

That's external price though surely? If it costs you that for
development internally you need to start outsourcing!

--
Woody
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On 21 Jun 2010 15:12:06 GMT, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:24:24 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-06-19 09:58:37 +0100, D.M. Procida said:
>>>
>>>> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/server-admin-remote/id300347476?mt=8>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This looks really neat. If a similar prgram could be created to
>> > > > > manage
>>>>>> the same services on other operating systems (I presume such a
>> > > > > thing
>>>>>> doesn't already exist), that would be even better.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be pretty easy to do. The thing that makes it easy to do
>> > > > on OSX
>>>>> server is that the same tools are used on all OSXs, whereas other
>>>>> servers have varying types of monitoring software, so it would have
>> > > > to
>>>>> be a lot more flexible.
>>>>
>>>> What do you reckon? �1000 worth of development?
>>>
>>> That's not very many day's worth.
>>
>> One and a quarter round our way. Likely not to include QA at that sort
>> of price.
>
>That's external price though surely? If it costs you that for
>development internally you need to start outsourcing!

External indeed - I was taking Daniele's �1000 as coming from the
customer direction. "Worth" is probably an inappropriate word, mind...
very subjective!

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"It's only work when somebody makes you do it." - Calvin
From: Woody on
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/server-admin-remote/id300347476?mt=8>
> > >
> > > This looks really neat. If a similar prgram could be created to manage
> > > the same services on other operating systems (I presume such a thing
> > > doesn't already exist), that would be even better.
> >
> > It would be pretty easy to do. The thing that makes it easy to do on OSX
> > server is that the same tools are used on all OSXs, whereas other
> > servers have varying types of monitoring software, so it would have to
> > be a lot more flexible.
>
> What do you reckon? �1000 worth of development?

To make an app that does what that one does, ie, gather existing stats
from a group of servers, probably a couple of thousand if you want it
slick and good looking. A few weeks should do it (assuming it doesn't do
anything not apparent from the screenshots)
To do that with other types of servers though, not even close if you
have to generate that data first.

Although I am sure there is some open source monitoring that you could
use (or commercial).


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