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From: mpc755 on 25 Oct 2009 19:35 By stationary aether, I am referring to Einstein's concept of a "absolutely stationary space". The aether is 'stationary' relative to the Earth because it is entrained by the Earth. The aether is 'stationary' in close proximity to a star in a binary star system and then is 'stationary' relative to both stars as the aether is entrained by both stars in the binary star system. > bingo!... royal flush? > > > Every aether experiment ever performed has shown the aether is not > > stationary.
From: Inertial on 25 Oct 2009 20:02 "kenseto" <kenseto(a)erinet.com> wrote in message news:038b59be-1c92-4b07-9e0c-892cc28482c1(a)p9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 24, 4:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Oct 24, 4:35 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Oct 24, 11:45 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > On Oct 24, 11:18 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: >> >> > > > On Oct 23, 11:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > I didn't say you said the observer is at rest in the aether. I >> > > > > said >> > > > > you said no observer is at rest in the aether. No observer at >> > > > > rest in >> > > > > the aether but the aether being at rest in all frames of >> > > > > reference is >> > > > > physically impossible. >> >> > > > In didn't say that the aether is at rest in all inertial frames. I >> > > > said that all objects are in a state of absolute motion in the >> > > > aether. >> >> > > If the object is at rest in its frame of reference and the aether is >> > > at rest in the frame of reference, then the object is at rest in the >> > > aether. >> >> > Sigh....no object is at rest in the aether. >> >> Sigh...if no object is at rest in the aether, then the aether is not >> at rest in any frame of reference, which means the aether is in >> relative motion to the two frames in Einstein's train thought >> experiment, meaning the frames are not isotropic. > > The aether is the only thing that is stationary In the frame of reference of the aether > and all material > objects are moving within it. Except those material objects that happen to not be moving in it. It is possible for two different objects to have the same amount of absolute motion but in opposite directions. An object the remains halfway between them would therefore has zero absolute motion. > Relative motion between two objects > moving in the aether is the result of the vector difference of their > absolute motion along the line joining them. And so you can have a zero absolute motion. > Isotropy of the speed of light as measured in any inertial frame is > due to the structure of the aether. Which then must result in rolativity of simultaneity > See the following link for demonstration of this concept: > http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf Don't bother [snip] > Then you are saying that your assertion is more valid than > experimental results....In don't think so. Again, the crackpot accuses others of his own folly one again. Ken continually denies all experimental evidence that shows his not-really-a-theory to be wrong, and instead makes assertions that his theory is correct [snip] > Assertion is not a valid arguement. Exactly. hence there is no valid argument for your so-called-theory which is self-contradictory nonsense.
From: kenseto on 26 Oct 2009 09:38 On Oct 25, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 25, 10:16 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > The aether is the only thing that is stationary and all material > > objects are moving within it. > > Every aether experiment ever performed has shown the aether is not > stationary. Istropy of the speed of light in all inertial frames shows that the aether is stationary.
From: mpc755 on 26 Oct 2009 09:40 On Oct 26, 9:38 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > On Oct 25, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Oct 25, 10:16 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > The aether is the only thing that is stationary and all material > > > objects are moving within it. > > > Every aether experiment ever performed has shown the aether is not > > stationary. > > Istropy of the speed of light in all inertial frames shows that the > aether is stationary. Is it absolutely stationary space or is it stationary in all inertial frames?
From: YBM on 26 Oct 2009 09:43
mpc755 a �crit : > On Oct 26, 9:38 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: >> On Oct 25, 3:35 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Oct 25, 10:16 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: >>>> The aether is the only thing that is stationary and all material >>>> objects are moving within it. >>> Every aether experiment ever performed has shown the aether is not >>> stationary. >> Istropy of the speed of light in all inertial frames shows that the >> aether is stationary. > > Is it absolutely stationary space or is it stationary in all inertial > frames? Hilarious: the inventor of the "absolute vertical direction" chating with the one who ended up with "stationary in all inertial frames". |