From: Elliott Roper on
In article <2010070218401145473-(a)news.plus.net>, Peter Badrick wrote:

> On 2010-07-02 14:55:34 +0100, Peter Badrick said:
>
> > There was a driver update for ATI cards in 10.6.3. That's where I first
> > noticed the problems so I'm going to revert to 10.6.2 via the disk and
> > combo updater. If the glitches are gone, problem solved. For now.
> >
> > I'll report back.
> >
> > Pete.
>
> Well, I've rolled back to 10.6.0 by installing over the top. Glitches
> are still there, so unless the method I've used didn't replace the
> graphics driver, looks like I'm screwed. And not in the nice way.
>
> Will erasing the disk and installing clean be any different to what I did??

I went through the driver re-install malarkey with my fried XT1900.
Putting the original graphics card back fixed everything. Except it was
dog slow which is why I bought the 1900 in the first place. I finally
bit the bullet and bought a 4870, which, while officially unsupported
in my first gen Pro is dead mega-ace. Of course you don't have those
options on an iMac, yet I'd strongly suggest blowing the fluff out of
the 1600's heat sink.

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From: Peter on
>
> I went through the driver re-install malarkey with my fried XT1900.
> Putting the original graphics card back fixed everything. Except it was
> dog slow which is why I bought the 1900 in the first place. I finally
> bit the bullet and bought a 4870, which, while officially unsupported
> in my first gen Pro is dead mega-ace. Of course you don't have those
> options on an iMac, yet I'd strongly suggest blowing the fluff out of
> the 1600's heat sink.

Well, I wouldn't have the 1st clue on how to open this case, and am
reluctant to do so until heat is the only possibly cause left, but the
temps I posted earlier tell me that isn't the problem.

Pete.

From: Peter on
>
> Possibly. I haven't done comprehensive tests of reverting to an old
> version of Snow Leopard so I can't be certain.
>
> One way you could check would be to look at the timestamps on the ATI
> drivers to see when they were updated.
>
> In Finder, navigate to /System/Library/Extensions, and look for the
> files starting with ATI. On my 10.6.3 system they are all dated 4 March
> 2010.
>
> The release dates for the 10.6 minor versions were:
>
> 10.6 28 August 2009
> 10.6.1 10 September 2009
> 10.6.2 9 November 2009
> 10.6.3 29 March 2010

All my ATI files are dated 3 August, 2009 so I guess that's the plain
10.6 driver, so I guess the driver isn't at fault.

Looks like I'll be using my old Windows laptop as my main computer for
the coming months until I can afford a new machines :-(

Time to make sure my backups are up-to-date and external drives are
converted to NTFS.

Pete.

From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:49:09 +0100, Peter Badrick wrote:

>>
>> I went through the driver re-install malarkey with my fried XT1900.
>> Putting the original graphics card back fixed everything. Except it was
>> dog slow which is why I bought the 1900 in the first place. I finally
>> bit the bullet and bought a 4870, which, while officially unsupported
>> in my first gen Pro is dead mega-ace. Of course you don't have those
>> options on an iMac, yet I'd strongly suggest blowing the fluff out of
>> the 1600's heat sink.
>
>Well, I wouldn't have the 1st clue on how to open this case,

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Browse/iMac_Intel does.

> and am
>reluctant to do so until heat is the only possibly cause left, but the
>temps I posted earlier tell me that isn't the problem.

Unluckily, assuming yours is a 20" screen,
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/faq_cd/imac-intel-processor-upgrade-video-upgrade.html#video
says that your graphics are soldered to the motherboard. So there's no
real repair option.

The only real downside of having lovely integrated all-in-one
systems...

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> > D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Your newsreader should wrap lines a bit more conservatively I think. I
> >> keep having to rewrap stuff you've quoted.
> >
> > It's not the newsreader, it's the editor. I'll have a tweak.
>
> Hmmm. Textwidth was set for 76, which I'd have though was ok.

Two chars extra per quoting level, so you only get two quoting levels
before you hit 80 chars beyond which point you'll need re-wrapping.

> I've set
> it for 72 now, but I suspect it's just not re-wrapping quoted content.
> Not sure there's anything I can do about that.

Your posts have needed re-wrapping earlier on in a thread than most
others.

72 chars is what MacSoup uses.

Rowland.

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