SnowLeopard--HELP!!
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From: David Empson on 4 Jun 2010 19:24 erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: > In article <tom_stiller-EC0B03.14191004062010(a)news.individual.net>, > Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Are you certain that the option to enable file sharing clients to > > connect over TCP/IP is enabled (checked) on the G4's File Sharing > > Control Panel? I have no problem connecting from my intel iMac running > > 10.6.3 to my PPC4400 running Mc OS 9.1 However, I cannot connect from > > the PPC4400 to the iMac. > > I'm not at all sure, to be honest. It used to work both ways as long as > I didn't try to move too much at once. > > Trying again. It's checked now, but I still have no communication. > There must be a step I'm missing somewhere. Possibly because the only > way I know to initiate the contact is from the G4. I've tried changing > "file sharing" on the Intel laptop, but that has no effect either. Mac OS X 10.6 has dropped support for connecting from Mac OS 9 (as a client) to Mac OS X 10.6 (as a server with file sharing enabled). (There was also a bug in 10.6 which prevented the other way around from working, but it was fixed in 10.6.2.) You should be able to connect from Mac OS X 10.6.3 (as a client) to Mac OS 9 (as a server). The Mac OS 9 computer must have file sharing enabled, with the option checked to enable file sharing over TCP/IP (in Control Panels > File Sharing). The Mac OS 9 computer will NOT appear in any automatic list of available servers on the Mac OS X computer, because Mac OS 9 only advertises its availability as a server using AppleTalk, and Mac OS X 10.6 has dropped support for AppleTalk. You can connect to the Mac OS 9 computer from the Mac OS X one by using the "Connect to Server" command under the Go menu in Finder, and typing in the IP address of the Mac OS 9 computer. (There is a mechanism to save an entry in a list of frequently used ones, but that will only be useful if your Mac OS 9 has a fixed or static IP address, not a dynamic one which might change each time it is turned on.) If you don't know what IP address your Mac OS 9 computer is using, have a look in its TCP/IP control panel. If you still can't connect, there might really be an issue with the Ethernet cable. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Warren Oates on 5 Jun 2010 08:29 In article <drache-E28B65.10431604062010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: > THAT's what it is! They let me get a lot of stuff I wanted saved but > seldom needed off the G4 so I wouldn't crash it as often multi-tasking > 8- Interesting. I was unaware that _any_ Mac ever supported DVD-RAM. The DVD drive in my Mac Pro for instance is a Pioneer that's been re-branded by Sony and sold to Apple with some features "flashed" off in the firmware, like DVD-RAM and some higher speeds. I can re-flash the firmware and get it to its original state, if I want, but I've never had a need for DVD-RAM. The "thicker" discs I was talking about were actually thicker discs, so you could have have DVD on one side and CD on the other or something. I've never seen one. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: erilar on 5 Jun 2010 10:00 In article <1jjm1mp.caz1psz7asc5N%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: > > > In article <tom_stiller-EC0B03.14191004062010(a)news.individual.net>, > > Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Are you certain that the option to enable file sharing clients to > > > connect over TCP/IP is enabled (checked) on the G4's File Sharing > > > Control Panel? I have no problem connecting from my intel iMac running > > > 10.6.3 to my PPC4400 running Mc OS 9.1 However, I cannot connect from > > > the PPC4400 to the iMac. > > > > I'm not at all sure, to be honest. It used to work both ways as long as > > I didn't try to move too much at once. > > > > Trying again. It's checked now, but I still have no communication. > > There must be a step I'm missing somewhere. Possibly because the only > > way I know to initiate the contact is from the G4. I've tried changing > > "file sharing" on the Intel laptop, but that has no effect either. > > Mac OS X 10.6 has dropped support for connecting from Mac OS 9 (as a > client) to Mac OS X 10.6 (as a server with file sharing enabled). > > (There was also a bug in 10.6 which prevented the other way around from > working, but it was fixed in 10.6.2.) > > You should be able to connect from Mac OS X 10.6.3 (as a client) to Mac > OS 9 (as a server). That's more or less what it's actually functioning as now. I suspect that's the nucleus of the problem right there. > > The Mac OS 9 computer must have file sharing enabled, with the option > checked to enable file sharing over TCP/IP (in Control Panels > File > Sharing). Did that. > > The Mac OS 9 computer will NOT appear in any automatic list of available > servers on the Mac OS X computer, because Mac OS 9 only advertises its > availability as a server using AppleTalk, and Mac OS X 10.6 has dropped > support for AppleTalk. Understood. > > You can connect to the Mac OS 9 computer from the Mac OS X one by using > the "Connect to Server" command under the Go menu in Finder, and typing > in the IP address of the Mac OS 9 computer. (There is a mechanism to > save an entry in a list of frequently used ones, but that will only be > useful if your Mac OS 9 has a fixed or static IP address, not a dynamic > one which might change each time it is turned on.) Saving this whole post in case I get close 8-) > > If you don't know what IP address your Mac OS 9 computer is using, have > a look in its TCP/IP control panel. Noted. > > If you still can't connect, there might really be an issue with the > Ethernet cable. It's hard to figure out how that could be the case, since, as I said earlier, it was working fine before the upgrade and neither G4 nor Airport has moved except when I disconnected the Firewired backup HD from the G4 to connect it directly to the laptop, and I checked both ends then as a matter of habit. I have other things to do this morning which I can succeed at, but I've noted all your advice for later. Thank you. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist http://www.mosaictelecom.com/~erilarlo
From: Richard Maine on 6 Jun 2010 21:53 Macdan2004 <macdan2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2010-06-02 17:50:29 -0600, erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> said: > > > I was told by Apple that SnowLeopard is never going to recognize the > > ethernet connection. > > Huh? I'm running SL 10.6.3 with an ethernet connection between my > laptop and my Airport Extreme wireless router. Works fine. I must be > misunderstanding your scenario. ??? Yes. If you read the (longish, it is true) rest of the thread, you will see that this turns out to be not particularly close to an accurate description of the problem. The problem has much more to do with compatibility with some old OS 9 stuff and very little to do with the ethernet connection. -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: erilar on 7 Jun 2010 10:13
In article <1jjohk8.vsslcqrjx4rkN%nospam(a)see.signature>, nospam(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > Macdan2004 <macdan2004(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2010-06-02 17:50:29 -0600, erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> said: > > > > > I was told by Apple that SnowLeopard is never going to recognize the > > > ethernet connection. > > > > Huh? I'm running SL 10.6.3 with an ethernet connection between my > > laptop and my Airport Extreme wireless router. Works fine. I must be > > misunderstanding your scenario. ??? > > Yes. If you read the (longish, it is true) rest of the thread, you will > see that this turns out to be not particularly close to an accurate > description of the problem. The problem has much more to do with > compatibility with some old OS 9 stuff and very little to do with the > ethernet connection. Yes, it's been quite a saga, I fear. I've been offered lots of advice I've done my best to follow, but it seems that's what it boils down to. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist http://www.mosaictelecom.com/~erilarlo |