From: nospam on
In article
<drache-008B51.10404003062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, erilar
<drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> OK. The Apple tech blamed the OS mismatch, but here's what the old one
> says about itself:
> built-in memory 384 MB
> Virtual memory 385 MB used

that indicates os 9.

> Machine ID 406
> Machine speed: 500 MHz
> Model name: Power Mac G4(AGP graphics)
> Processor info: PowerPC G4
> ATA Hard Drive

on a very old powermac g4

> Open Transport Version 2.7.9
> Ethernet built-in: Link: up
> Appletalk active Version 60

it sees the ethernet hardware.
From: Richard Maine on
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-6C7BB3.09343503062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <drache-9D8772.09274103062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
> > erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > I had the Mac store tech install it
> >
> > Is that a true Apple store, or a third party?
>
> True Mac store; they sell nothing else.

The way you phrase that makes me unsure whether you understood the
question. A third party store can also sell nothing other than Macs.
That doesn't make it a "true Apple store". By that term, Jolly was
asking whether it was a store with the actual "Apple Store" brand, owned
or franchised by Apple. Note the way he contrasted it with "or a third
party." A "Mac store" would not be the same thing; that sounds like a
description rather than a store name. If it does happen to be a store
name, then no, that's not a "true Apple store", but would be a third
party.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article
<drache-AF1A46.10202603062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-6C7BB3.09343503062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <drache-9D8772.09274103062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
> > erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > I had the Mac store tech install it
> >
> > Is that a true Apple store, or a third party?
>
> True Mac store; they sell nothing else.

Companies other than Apple can run Mac-only stores.

The question, again, is:

Is that an Apple store, or not?

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article
<drache-008B51.10404003062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-265B78.09501003062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > You have't told us much at all about the hardware. All we know currently
> > is it's a G4. If we knew the exact model, how much RAM, what PCI cards
> > are installed, and all the other details about it, you'd probably be
> > receiving better help by now.
>
> OK. The Apple tech blamed the OS mismatch, but here's what the old one
> says about itself:
> built-in memory 384 MB
> Virtual memory 385 MB used
>
> Machine ID 406
> Machine speed: 500 MHz
> Model name: Power Mac G4(AGP graphics)
> Processor info: PowerPC G4
> ATA Hard Drive
>
> Open Transport Version 2.7.9
> Ethernet built-in: Link: up
> Appletalk active Version 60
>
> I can't find anything that says PCI, but am probably looking in the
> wrong place.
>
> I have to type this in as I go; I can't copy because the link is down.
> Does this mean anything to anyone?

Whoever told you Mac OS X 10.4 or 10.5 won't support Ethernet on this
machine either knows something you aren't telling us about the machine,
or is full of bull. I've run Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 on similar models
without issue (Ethernet was fully functional).

For best performance, you would want to upgrade the RAM to 1-2 GB
(preferably 2 GB). And while it's probable that you would get slightly
better performance (due to slightly lower memory requirements) with Mac
OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.5 has many new features, bug fixes, and
performance improvements over 10.4. So I'd say, if possible, you'd want
to try to add sufficient RAM and go with 10.5.

I advise you to use some caution in upgrading this machine. If you get
anywhere near spending $300, you're *much* better off purchasing a used
Mac mini G4 on eBay for ~$300 instead! It'll be a much faster and more
capable computer in general. You may even be able to find an older model
Mac mini Intel on eBay for around the same price, if you look hard
enough! And that would give you an even greater speed increase, not to
mention allowing you to run Mac OS X 10.6 and beyond.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article
<drache-E1AC40.10230103062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-EB8F75.09341003062010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <drache-9D8772.09274103062010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
> > erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > B: I had, as it happens, a backup of the address book, but the new OS
> > > refuses to open it.
> >
> > I believe you need to open it in the same version Address Book (and OS)
> > that created it, and then choose File > Export from Address Book to
> > export it in a format that can be read by newer versions of Address Book.
>
> Unfortunately, I no longer have such a version available unless there's
> some way to open it IN the backup copy on the external HD.

Does the external HD have a bootable backup of the prior version of the
OS? If so, you can boot up on it to export the address book data.

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