From: William Mook on
On Mar 1, 4:13 pm, Damien Valentine <valen...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> So let's recap (since there's an awful lot of quoting being thrown
> around).  Mr. Mook mentioned a "superlaser",

No, someone else mentioned superlaser, I asked what it was, and was
told it was a device from Star Wars.

> which is a device from
> the "Star Wars" franchise.

Yes, whereupon I observed it was a fictional device.

> Someone criticized this plan, since it relies on a device that doesn't
> exist.

No, Freddie said so was my plan. At which point I said my stuff
wasn't fictional in the same sense as the Star War laser.

> Mr. Mook claimed that "none of my stuff is fictional",
> implying either that when he says "superlaser", he doesn't actually
> mean a device like the example he gave...

I didn't bring up superlaser. I spoke of using solar pumped free
electron lasers to efficiently beam energy to where its desired.

> or else that he has a fully
> armed and operational battle station in his attic.

Not at all. There is a difference between something that is designed
based upon sound engineering principles and a thing that is a device
to advance a plot in a science fiction movie.

> Then Misters Mook and McCall just started repeating their points over
> and over again, with Mr. Mook curiously insisting that since he's not
> writing a novel, his plan does not rely on "fictional" devices...and
> then claiming that his opponents are either stupid or "evil".

No, Freddie has a sig at the end of some of his posts where he quotes
Socrates saying that falsehoods are evil. I pointed out that
according to Freddie's sigs his efforts to mischaracterize what I have
written as fiction is evil on that basis.

> Have I got this right?

Nearly so.
From: Pat Flannery on
On 3/1/2010 1:13 PM, Damien Valentine wrote:
>
> Someone criticized this plan, since it relies on a device that doesn't
> exist. Mr. Mook claimed that "none of my stuff is fictional",
> implying either that when he says "superlaser", he doesn't actually
> mean a device like the example he gave...or else that he has a fully
> armed and operational battle station in his attic.
>
> Then Misters Mook and McCall just started repeating their points over
> and over again, with Mr. Mook curiously insisting that since he's not
> writing a novel, his plan does not rely on "fictional" devices...and
> then claiming that his opponents are either stupid or "evil".
>
> Have I got this right?

All except what happens to the Ewoks in the end:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html

Pat

From: Greg D. Moore (Strider) on
Fred J. McCall wrote:
> Pat Flannery <flanner(a)daktel.com> wrote:
>
> I am your father, Pat...

Well there goes MY lunch.

:-)


--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.


From: Damien Valentine on
On Mar 1, 4:01 pm, William Mook <mokmedi...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> No, someone else mentioned superlaser, I asked what it was, and was
> told it was a device from Star Wars.

Ah, I see -- backtracking through a couple pages of argument. That
might be part of the problem; nobody understands what anybody else is
saying, because nobody can keep track of 100+ post threads. My
apologies!
From: Damien Valentine on
On Mar 2, 7:38 am, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I am your father, Pat...

"And Princess Leia is your sister!
And the Empire will be defeated by Ewoks!
And as a child, I built C3PO!"