From: Graham McKechnie on
Jamal,

> I'll renew my VOPS subscription now!

What a hero. Lead 'em in battle mate - right out the front - sacrifice for
the cause and all that stuff

> Will you do the same?

Not a chance<g>

Graham


"Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I'll do something!
>
> I'll renew my VOPS subscription now!
>
> Will you do the same?
>
> Jamal
>
> "Carlos Rocha" <carlos.delete.this(a)net-disk.com> wrote in message
> news:1159195848.232516.125570(a)e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> HELP...TOO MANY DESAPOINTED PEOPLE HERE. Don't let VO die, PLEASE
>>
>
>


From: Meinhard Schnoor-Matriciani on
Hi Carlos,

don't be afraid. Of course even VO's lifetime will end sometime in the
fututre, as every product, but it'll be around the next couple of years for
sure.

Remember a couple of years back. There were also a couple of guys which
predicted the end of VO and what happened ? It's still alive and most of
those self appointed wise man have disappeared. Gone with the wind and with
all their wisdom. No loss.

Interesting enough, if you look to the other VO oriented forums, like the
german one, there seem to be still a lot of 'insane' programmers which are
working instead of producing heated air ( actually they don't have the time
to do so, because they have a lot of assigments ) . A new version is in
front of us and those who are interested should concentrate on this instead
of contributing to these foolish threads. I wonder what would happen when we
all leave this guys alone ? My advise, ignore them.

BTW, we are going to announce a new version of our product (the Application
Factory 5.2) too, which will be build with VO 2.8 ! And we'll have a new
product too ! Again being build with VO 2.8, its name will be VOUnit and is
a set of libraries and a runtime component which enables you to do automatic
unit testing with VO, much like NUnit does for the .Net world. And the best
thing, VOUnit will be free and open source !

Regards,
Meinhard





From: Jamal on
You're a hopeless case. I was not conversing with you!

Jamal

"Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Jamal,
>
>> I'll renew my VOPS subscription now!
>
> What a hero. Lead 'em in battle mate - right out the front - sacrifice for
> the cause and all that stuff
>
>> Will you do the same?
>
> Not a chance<g>
>
> Graham
>
>
> "Jamal" <vodotnet_NoSpam(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:I9URg.2609$fl2.1260(a)trnddc02...
>> Yes, I'll do something!
>>
>> I'll renew my VOPS subscription now!
>>
>> Will you do the same?
>>
>> Jamal
>>
>> "Carlos Rocha" <carlos.delete.this(a)net-disk.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159195848.232516.125570(a)e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>> HELP...TOO MANY DESAPOINTED PEOPLE HERE. Don't let VO die, PLEASE
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Geoff Schaller on
Carlos,

In all seriousness I also see a request for 'pre-orders' as negative. It
shows a serious lack of confidence in the marketplace and a distrust for
VO loyalty. It is also double-speak for stalling - a way of saying
nothing in order to make to appear like something. A feature list of bug
fix list would have been better. What is on the website is pathetic so
something concrete would at least have been positive.

Geoff


From: Geoff Schaller on
Lipstick on an aging pig? Hmmmm...

This is hilarious. Is that what you really think of VO then. OK, I don't
because it is making us money and has always done so. And probably will
continue to do so. This aging pig is bringing home the bacon for us.

<g> ...emotive buggers the lot of you!




"Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message
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> Carlos,
>
> Perhaps it has been said before, but it's certainly worth saying again
> perhaps with a slightly different emphasis: THE ONLY THING KEEPING VO ALIVE
> IS VOPS. The revenue that comes from VO sales isn't enough to even consider
> keeping a dev team around. Fortunately there are enough subscribers to VOPS
> to assure continued VO development for a while, and since the vast majority
> of VOPS subscribers are happy, I think it's likely there will be enough
> money for next year too, so you don't have to worry. ;-)
>
> By the way, the "something more" you really need is Vulcan. That's the
> future, not more lipstick on an aging pig. And the important something that
> VO 2.8 provides that nobody seems to have emphasized yet is an easier
> migration path to Vulcan and previous versions of VO.
>
> --
> Ginny