From: Rui Maciel on
Grant Edwards wrote:

>> Do you actually believe that that is a reasonable suggestion?
>
> Yes. You could have done it in less time that you spent posting in
> this thread. And you would have learned something.

You can't possibly be serious. You cannot really believe that suggesting someone to "buy a
couple of connectors and a few resistors and build one" is a remotely reasonable suggestion to
give to someone who asks for an audio input device supported on linux.


Rui Maciel
From: The Natural Philosopher on
Rui Maciel wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>>> Do you actually believe that that is a reasonable suggestion?
>> Yes. You could have done it in less time that you spent posting in
>> this thread. And you would have learned something.
>
> You can't possibly be serious. You cannot really believe that suggesting someone to "buy a
> couple of connectors and a few resistors and build one" is a remotely reasonable suggestion to
> give to someone who asks for an audio input device supported on linux.
>
>
> Rui Maciel

Why not?

If it were WINDOWS, I would agree with you..
From: Aragorn on
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 23:50 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody
identifying as unruh wrote...

> On 2010-04-20, Aragorn <aragorn(a)chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 19:36 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody
>> identifying as unruh wrote...
>>
>>> On 2010-04-20, Harald Meyer <meyersharald(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> POD x3 = Small battery powered DSP device that models various amps.
>>>
>>> I certainly have no idea what this is, even now.
>>
>> It's a floor effects device, which, as Harald says, contains
>> digitally sampled amplifier models, but you can also use it for plain
>> electric guitar (or bass) effects, like chorus, flanging, phasing,
>> reverb, delay, pitch shift, overdrive/distortion, and the likes.[1]
>>
>> Think of it as a digitalized pre-amp with built-in effects, in which
>> the pre-amp can be any of a whole series of vary famous amplifiers,
>> e.g. Marshall, Mesa Boogie, Roland, Vox AC30, et al. You can hook a
>> POD straight up to a mixer or P.A. and sound like you're playing with
>> (for instance) a Marshall JCM 900 full stack[1] behind you. The
>> digital amplifier models basically mimick all the nuances and
>> dynamics of the selected amplifier type.
>
> But if it is internally digital why in the world are you changing it
> back to analog and then back to digital within the soundcard.

The POD itself is not intended for use with a computer. It's intended
to be connected to a DI box or a P.A. Yet, what the OP wants is
something that does what a POD does - i.e. use digitally emulated
amplifiers to color the sound - but that interfaces with the computer
instead.

The POD alone cannot do this, since it was never designed for that
purpose. However, connecting the output of a POD - and I don't own one
or have never used one, so I'm not sure on whether it has a "line out"
connector, but I presume that it does - to a device which converts the
analog sound to digital and inputs it into a computer should be
possible.

> You want it to output digital. In which case he does not want a line
> input either.

Well, you can go either way, of course. You can use a "line in" on a
soundcard to input a signal that has already been brought to line level
beforehand and then use software to convert it into a digital format so
you can store and edit it on the computer, *or* you can have it
converted from analog to digital *outside* of the computer and then fed
to the computer as a digital signal via USB.

> He wants a digital input ( possibly just a usb line). Weirder
> and weirder.

Well, the one thing I can think of which he could use - I don't use this
kind of stuff myself, as at the moment, I am keeping my computers and
my guitars in seperate and independent realities :p - is the Line 6
Guitar Port.

http://line6.com/guitarport/

Alas, the software for it is proprietary and thus, as expected, only
works on either Microsoft Windows or Apple OS X. I don not know to
what extent the device itself could be used as a standalone D/A
converter to the computer, but I reckon that should be possible.

The Guitar Port is capable of handling the impedance of a guitar signal
and sends the digitalized output to the computer via USB. Since the
Guitar Port relies on software to do the amp modeling, perhaps the OP
should consider using a POD (or another device with amplifier
simulation) in between the guitar and the Guitar Port, so that the
actual sound shaping happens outside of the computer and so that the
role of the software on the computer can be reduced to simple recording
and "post-production"-style editing via copy/paste.

The Boss GT-10 which I own does have a USB port of itself, but given
that there is a requirement for a freely downloadable but of course
proprietary driver - for Windows or OS X, of course - I haven't really
looked into that. I do not know whether the USB port on the GT-10
could be used to send a digitalized audio feed to the computer. As far
as I know (at this stage), it is there so as to, via the proprietary
driver, allow the device to store its data as backup on a computer or a
MIDI-capable device - it also has MIDI connectors.

http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=941&ParentId=248

Like I said, I have to date always kept my guitars and my computers as
two totally separate aspects of my life, two independent realities.
And I'm trying very hard to keep it like that. :p

On a sidenote, I do believe that there is at least one Debian-based
distribution geared specifically for used as an audio workstation, so
perhaps this distribution includes some drivers and software which
would be able to work with interfaces like the Guitar Port.

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: Rui Maciel on
Rui Maciel wrote:

> And it's a shame because I can actually get my hands on a Behringer
> FCA202.

....which wouldn't do me much good as it doesn't work on linux.


http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-445823.html


Rui Maciel
From: Harald Meyer on
Rui Maciel wrote:
> Rui Maciel wrote:
>
>> And it's a shame because I can actually get my hands on a Behringer
>> FCA202.
>
> ...which wouldn't do me much good as it doesn't work on linux.
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-445823.html

The Firewire FCA202, the USB UCA202 ist told to work fine.