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From: Me on 7 Jan 2010 15:23 On Jan 7, 1:51 pm, OM <o...(a)sci.space.history> wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:02:23 -0800, Pat Flannery <flan...(a)daktel.com> > wrote: > > >Me wrote: > > >> No, they aren't leaving the country or going to an individual. They > >> will end up at NASA centers and NASM > > >NASM already has one. > > ...According to most sources, KSC and JSC have one earmarked each, and > one source has it that Space Center Disney has been dropping strong > hints that they specifically want Discovery so they can build a new > addition to the Center and take advantage of the name as part of the > propaganda effort. That leaves just one to fight over, since NASM > doesn't need one, and somehow I doubt Marshall will get one. Best > guess is the Cosmodrome, provided they could afford to build the > protective structure. > NASM does get one to exchange with Enterprise WPAFB, EAFB, Seattle, LA would get one before Kansas.
From: David Spain on 7 Jan 2010 16:01 Robert Clark <rgregoryclark(a)yahoo.com> writes: > ... > And this for an initial investment of $42 million. Any estimate on the cost to retrofit the wings with fuel tankage? How does the orbiter launch? Vertically with a special launch pad as it does now, or horizontally from an airstrip? If the former, why not still use SRB's for assist? Why discard the ET at all? If you're not using it for fuel its a high volume space, that if rigid enough to handle G loads with SRBs attached give you even MORE payload volume (if not capacity because of structural limitations) than the payload bay.... Dave PS: For the rest of you, sorry for stoking the fire, but I gotta know where this is going... Something about being partial to very fast 57 Chevys... ;-)
From: Pat Flannery on 7 Jan 2010 18:40 David Spain wrote: > > PS: For the rest of you, sorry for stoking the fire, but > I gotta know where this is going... > > Something about being partial to very fast 57 Chevys... I'll bet the Eaglepanzees can take far higher g-loads than human astronauts, and are more likely to perform outrageous hijinks and hilarious monkeyshines while on-orbit also. Wally Schirra simply put the lens cover on the TV camera when he became angry on Apollo 7...an Eaglepanzee would have hurled feces straight at that camera, and that would have been just for starters. I want an all-mutant monkey crew to be my contribution to what is evolving here. I can think of few things more heartwarming than watching a beaked Chimp-like creature hatch from an egg. ;-) Pat
From: Brian Gaff on 7 Jan 2010 18:09 What you all been taking today? Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: briang1(a)blueyonder.co.uk ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ "Pat Flannery" <flanner(a)daktel.com> wrote in message news:qfmdnR5iRcd8ydvWnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d(a)posted.northdakotatelephone... > David Spain wrote: > >> >> PS: For the rest of you, sorry for stoking the fire, but >> I gotta know where this is going... >> >> Something about being partial to very fast 57 Chevys... > > I'll bet the Eaglepanzees can take far higher g-loads than human > astronauts, and are more likely to perform outrageous hijinks and > hilarious monkeyshines while on-orbit also. > Wally Schirra simply put the lens cover on the TV camera when he became > angry on Apollo 7...an Eaglepanzee would have hurled feces straight at > that camera, and that would have been just for starters. > I want an all-mutant monkey crew to be my contribution to what is evolving > here. > I can think of few things more heartwarming than watching a beaked > Chimp-like creature hatch from an egg. ;-) > > > Pat
From: Jorge R. Frank on 7 Jan 2010 20:05
OM wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:23:55 -0800 (PST), Charlie X. Murphy, L2 > sycophant <charliexmurphy(a)yahoo.com> arrogantly quiffed: > >> NASM does get one to exchange with Enterprise > > ...Care to cite source? Or is that only available with an L2 purchase? <http://www.floridatoday.com/content/blogs/space/2009/11/which-museum-will-get-space-shuttle.shtml> <http://www.floridatoday.com/content/blogs/space/2010/01/predictions-for-coming-year-in-space.shtml> OM, NASM has first dibs on orbiters, period. They could, in theory, take a flown orbiter *and keep* Enterprise, if they wanted (and if Udvar-Hazy could fit two). NASM not only gets to choose who gets Enterprise, they have considerable say in where the other two flown orbiters will go. The smart money right now is on: 101 - Seattle Museum of Flight 103 - NASM Udvar-Hazy 104 - USAF Museum, Wright-Patterson 105 - KSC JSC gets locked out due to bad blood with NASM due to the treatment of the Saturn V, and Seattle gets Enterprise because Bonnie Dunbar is the president and is pushing hard to get an orbiter. |