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From: Greg D. Moore (Strider) on 8 Jan 2010 15:06 "OM" <om(a)sci.space.history> wrote in message news:ve1fk5lo0u6l2lcvf1g0ob6qegicvrhg24(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:37:26 GMT, "Brian Gaff" > <Briang1(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>Well, I've no idea about all that, so I'll sit here smiling and assume the >>worst. > > ...No, the worst is when Charlie starts waving that corncob around, > demanding that everyone smell it and comment on how fragrant it is. > Which is what most of his posts consist of. > And most of yours are slinging similar material around and expecting people to thank you for making the place smell better. OM, you just keep digging your reputation a deeper and deeper hole. Really, just stop. You have a problem with Charlie and everyone else at L2, great. I'm down with that. But don't go dragging it around all the place. The only person you're hurting is yourself.
From: Jeff Findley on 8 Jan 2010 15:15 "Pat Flannery" <flanner(a)daktel.com> wrote in message news:eb2dnfbhc9j789rWnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)posted.northdakotatelephone... > Me wrote: > >> That is what part of the 42 million pays for > > When they took the Enterprise up to DC, how did they get it off of the > 747? IIRC, they have some sort of air transportable version of the > mate/demate crane assembly in case the Shuttle ever had to land at a place > other than Kennedy or Edwards; did they use that? This has been discussed here before. If the shuttle lands anywhere but Edwards or KSC, it has to be mated or de-mated to the 747 without the usual mate-demate facility. Dim memory says the hardware to do this can be transported on a big cargo aircraft (something like a C-141, C-5, or C-17). I'd think it was used for STS-3 after landing at White Sands, but I can't seem to connect to the JSC Image Archive. Here's a (big) picture of that landing: http://www.holloman.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/090330-F-9999X-001.jpg Can't seem to find pictures of the mating operation... Jeff -- "Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon
From: Derek Lyons on 8 Jan 2010 16:36 "Jorge R. Frank" <jrfrank(a)ibm-pc.borg> wrote: >>> 101 - Seattle Museum of Flight >> >> ...Arguments against that are cost. Last I heard. SMF's having some >> financial difficulties. Nothing door-closing yet, but enough to rule >> out building a special extension for something like a Shuttle. > >Last I heard, their building is large enough. If they dump the rest of their collection, sure - the building they have is stuffed to the gills. Otherwise, no. (Based on the conditions at the SMF last time I was there, about three years ago. I haven't heard of any construction effort.) In fact, they've started parking aircraft across Marginal Way west of the museum. They may be banking on borrowing hangar space from Boeing, but I can't see that happening. The southern hangar area is stuffed with classified military aircraft and the northern is a major industrial operation - neither conducive to preservation or tourist acess.) So that leaves the currently unused Boeing parking area to the south of museum, the SMF has borrowed it in the past. As to financial troubles that OM aludes to, he may be confusing (as many do) the troubled Future Of Flight museum up at Paine Field in Everett with the Seattle Museum of Flight. (The SMF was going to step in and take over the Future Of Flight museum some years back, but the deal fell through.) D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/ -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
From: Greg D. Moore (Strider) on 8 Jan 2010 19:51 "OM" <om(a)sci.space.history> wrote in message news:c43dk5pi6dj9tq5khqgcai7r6q3gcpn2la(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:05:20 -0600, "Jorge R. Frank" > >>103 - NASM Udvar-Hazy > > ...They do have the room. > Not really. Last time I was there, there's definitely room at one end of the main hall, but that's all airplane stuff, not space stuff. And right now the location of the Enterprise is pretty impressive. That and the SR-71 are in a great spot. BUT, they are adding on over time, so there could be room in the future.
From: Greg D. Moore (Strider) on 8 Jan 2010 23:07
"OM" <om(a)sci.space.history> wrote in message news:mrlfk5p01a7m2huum5uifmekg4a7vvhu9f(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 19:53:08 -0500, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" > <mooregr_delet3th1s(a)greenms.com> wrote: > >> >>As for derision, the more you act like this, the more YOU get, whether you >>want to or not. The only person you're making look bad is yourself. So >>even if your goal were right, you're going about it the wrong way. > > ...Otay Greg, let's put up or shut up: if I'm going about it "the > wrong way", what, in *your* opinion, is the "right" way? The one that > would guarantee results? All I hear is "you're going about it the > wrong way" and "you're damaging your reputation". Well, fine. If > there's another way, then let's hear it. I'll wait. > Well let's see, you already deleted the one suggestion I made. Secondly act like an adult. If Charlie is so terrible he'll hang himself. Put yourself above the fray and you'll earn people's respect. But that's probably too high-faluting for you. Let's put it this way, have you seen a single person in this newsgroup cheer you on? Suggest you're doing the right thing? Now compare your style to say Henry's or dare I say Mary's. People who are well respected for reasons in addition to their knowledge. -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. |