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From: BURT on 31 Mar 2010 16:11 When the train is passing the station at high speed and it looks at its clock SR says it will be running slow. But for how long can the station clock be running slow if it is aging faster? This is the fundamental clock time contradiction in SR. Mitch Raemsch
From: ben6993 on 31 Mar 2010 18:26 On Mar 31, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > When the train is passing the station at high speed and it looks at > its clock SR says it will be running slow. But for how long can the > station clock be running slow if it is aging faster? > > This is the fundamental clock time contradiction in SR. > > Mitch Raemsch A paradox is that British rail trains often run slower than the clocks, yet there can still be anouncements of apologies for late arrivals made only after the trains have already departed the stations. Also, trains are often announced to be "shortly arriving". That does not mean that they are travelling so fast that they have contracted in length. It just means that a coach has been removed so that more passengers need to stand.
From: BURT on 31 Mar 2010 18:36 On Mar 31, 3:26 pm, ben6993 <ben6...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 31, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > When the train is passing the station at high speed and it looks at > > its clock SR says it will be running slow. But for how long can the > > station clock be running slow if it is aging faster? > > > This is the fundamental clock time contradiction in SR. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > A paradox is that British rail trains often run slower than the > clocks, yet there can still be anouncements of apologies for late > arrivals made only after the trains have already departed the > stations. > > Also, trains are often announced to be "shortly arriving". That does > not mean that they are travelling so fast that they have contracted in > length. It just means that a coach has been removed so that more > passengers need to stand. Atoms don't shrink flat. This is wrong physics. Mitch Raemsch
From: ben6993 on 31 Mar 2010 19:00 On Mar 31, 11:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 31, 3:26 pm, ben6993 <ben6...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > When the train is passing the station at high speed and it looks at > > > its clock SR says it will be running slow. But for how long can the > > > station clock be running slow if it is aging faster? > > > > This is the fundamental clock time contradiction in SR. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > A paradox is that British rail trains often run slower than the > > clocks, yet there can still be anouncements of apologies for late > > arrivals made only after the trains have already departed the > > stations. > > > Also, trains are often announced to be "shortly arriving". That does > > not mean that they are travelling so fast that they have contracted in > > length. It just means that a coach has been removed so that more > > passengers need to stand. > > Atoms don't shrink flat. This is wrong physics. > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Not sure what you mean? Are you saying that as SR is usually explained in terms of the effects of the finite speed of light rays, and as visible light does not resolve details within the atom, then therefore atoms are exempt from SR contraction?
From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on 31 Mar 2010 21:02 BURT wrote: > > On Mar 31, 3:26 pm, ben6993 <ben6...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 31, 9:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > When the train is passing the station at high speed and it looks at > > > its clock SR says it will be running slow. But for how long can the > > > station clock be running slow if it is aging faster? > > > > > This is the fundamental clock time contradiction in SR. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > A paradox is that British rail trains often run slower than the > > clocks, yet there can still be anouncements of apologies for late > > arrivals made only after the trains have already departed the > > stations. > > > > Also, trains are often announced to be "shortly arriving". That does > > not mean that they are travelling so fast that they have contracted in > > length. It just means that a coach has been removed so that more > > passengers need to stand. > > Atoms don't shrink flat. How do you know? -- Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul(a)Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ If you're ridin' ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then to make sure it's still there.
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