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From: Valentin Guillen on 24 Dec 2005 11:35 On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:18:58 +0000, Henk Oegema wrote: > felmon davis wrote: > >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:07:03 -0700, Valentin Guillen wrote: >> >>> Streamripper is the one. It's a command line utility which will record >>> and separate the tracks. There are also GUI front-ends available for >>> it. >> >> I use one of the gui's which is very attractive and useful, >> kstreamripper (under kde). > > I can't find kstreamripper. I've looked under Multimedia but can't find http://packman.links2linux.de/?action=502
From: houghi on 24 Dec 2005 12:08 Valentin Guillen wrote: >> I can't find kstreamripper. I've looked under Multimedia but can't find > > http://packman.links2linux.de/?action=502 http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories add the ones in 1.1, Packman and Guru. -- houghi Please do not toppost http://houghi.org You are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, Usenet
From: felmon davis on 24 Dec 2005 14:02 On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:43:06 -0700, Valentin Guillen wrote: > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:04:11 +0000, felmon davis wrote: > > >> so ripping is copyright infringement. >> >> Felmon > > Life in the *real world* is NOT like television in the 50s: it is NOT in > high-contrast black and white. > > > Thank goodness for that....... I lived through the 50's; it wasn't black and white then either. > Many music sources on the web *encourage* personal downloading and/or > recording of their content. > > US copyright has a long established legal precedent of "fair use" > doctrine, part of which enshrines making personal copies or recordings. > Indeed the Sony tape/disk walkman, the VCR, TiVo, Xerox/copy machines, > and many other examples are Predicated upon this legal doctrine. > > Thus, to make blanket assertions about "ripping" being equatable to > automatic copyright infringement borders on the ludicrous. I should have used more question marks. I was thinking out loud asking questions about 'fair use'. it was my impression also that one could make copies but I wasn't sure what applies regarding streaming media and copying. > Now, I can't say what other regional or national law dictates, but > certainly here in the US, we have historically enjoyed wide latitude > regarding personal copies of a wide variety of content. > > Hence, it is wise to speak with great specificity when discussing these > themes, and broad generalities serve no one. true, true, and thanks for the philosophical reminders. but the questions are still fair. they can be answered with, 'here in Germany, the law states...' or 'in the USA when you are using blah blah...'; I will certainly do my own research but I'm just having conversation right now with knowledgeable people. it is interesting that the devices you mentioned above do not involve streaming (or do they?). for instance, I don't know in the USA what the law actually says about copying radio programs and radio music for storage and replay. I imagine it is either ok or if prohibited, never enforced. again, asking questions. thoughts, information, speculations, further questions are all welcome. I may do a quick search tonight, I believe Stanford University has a good site on such things. Felmon
From: houghi on 24 Dec 2005 14:29 felmon davis wrote: > but the questions are still fair. they can be answered with, 'here in > Germany, the law states...' or 'in the USA when you are using blah > blah...'; I will certainly do my own research but I'm just having > conversation right now with knowledgeable people. Start with reading about the Bern convention and what is said there. That is used as a basis for all copyright (Well, most) laws. http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/trtdocs_wo001.html What I hate most about it is the timeframe. 75 years is way too long. Also I doubt that e.g. Tolkien will be writing any new book very soon. -- houghi Please do not toppost http://houghi.org You are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, Usenet
From: felmon davis on 24 Dec 2005 16:18
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:29:30 +0100, houghi wrote: >> but the questions are still fair. they can be answered with, 'here in >> Germany, the law states...' or 'in the USA when you are using blah >> blah...'; I will certainly do my own research but I'm just having >> conversation right now with knowledgeable people. > > Start with reading about the Bern convention and what is said there. > That is used as a basis for all copyright (Well, most) laws. > http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/trtdocs_wo001.html > > What I hate most about it is the timeframe. 75 years is way too long. > Also I doubt that e.g. Tolkien will be writing any new book very soon. thanks; the Stanford site is <http://fairuse.stanford.edu> Felmon |