From: Bret Cahill on 16 Jun 2010 23:16 http://www.asesystems.com/pneumatic-jacks.shtml?gclid=CLO-zdGRpqICFRk7gwodFnMjRg These rubberized Kevlar bags are small uninflated and can be packed into a canister that protects the fabric from the ragged pipe entrance. Once in the pipe the bag is inflated busting the canister apart w/ no sharp edges. The bladder needs to be a few feet up the pipe and inflated fast. Immediately pump that surfactant /dispersant into the pipe to increase the coefficient of friction. At 120 psig a few square feet area = many tons force. Bret Cahill
From: Frogwatch on 16 Jun 2010 23:59 On Jun 16, 11:16 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)peoplepc.com> wrote: > http://www.asesystems.com/pneumatic-jacks.shtml?gclid=CLO-zdGRpqICFRk.... > > These rubberized Kevlar bags are small uninflated and can be packed > into a canister that protects the fabric from the ragged pipe > entrance. > > Once in the pipe the bag is inflated busting the canister apart w/ no > sharp edges. > > The bladder needs to be a few feet up the pipe and inflated fast. > Immediately pump that surfactant /dispersant into the pipe to increase > the coefficient of friction. > > At 120 psig a few square feet area = many tons force. > > Bret Cahill The oil well device you are describing was invented by the Johnston Brothers in teh 1930s and is called a "inflate packer" and is an everyday device in the oil patch. You stuff it down the pipe and inflate it with mud and it seals the pipe. Problem is you gotta get it in there.
From: Michael Coburn on 17 Jun 2010 00:01 On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:16:50 -0700, Bret Cahill wrote: > http://www.asesystems.com/pneumatic-jacks.shtml?gclid=CLO- zdGRpqICFRk7gwodFnMjRg > > These rubberized Kevlar bags are small uninflated and can be packed into > a canister that protects the fabric from the ragged pipe entrance. > > Once in the pipe the bag is inflated busting the canister apart w/ no > sharp edges. > > The bladder needs to be a few feet up the pipe and inflated fast. > Immediately pump that surfactant /dispersant into the pipe to increase > the coefficient of friction. > > At 120 psig a few square feet area = many tons force. > > > Bret Cahill It has become obvious that the well is fractured deep under the well head. There are many ways to plug a pipe. That will not be done because it will do no good. I say that because I have suggested one fool proof method to close the pipe sing a round pointed object just a tad smaller than the pope and backed by large amounts of concrete or guy wires to force the "needle valve" into the pipe and shut off the flow. You and others have also suggested methods to close a pipe. That is OBVIOUSLY NOT the actual situation. It must be that the well is damaged very deeply and closing off the pipe will just blow the oil out of the lower damaged parts of the well. The capture of the oil is obviously the only thing that can be done until the relief wells are completed. I say this because BP can't be as stupid as to not think of a needle valve. I have no idea what the pressure is, but it must be enough to wreck the lower well piping if the top is capped. I have no idea why the mud and the junk were attempted other than for show. -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
From: Bret Cahill on 17 Jun 2010 00:49 > > http://www.asesystems.com/pneumatic-jacks.shtml?gclid=CLO- > > zdGRpqICFRk7gwodFnMjRg > > > > > These rubberized Kevlar bags are small uninflated and can be packed into > > a canister that protects the fabric from the ragged pipe entrance. > > > Once in the pipe the bag is inflated busting the canister apart w/ no > > sharp edges. > > > The bladder needs to be a few feet up the pipe and inflated fast. > > Immediately pump that surfactant /dispersant into the pipe to increase > > the coefficient of friction. > > > At 120 psig a few square feet area = many tons force. > > > Bret Cahill > > It has become obvious that the well is fractured deep under the well > head. That explains why the "dome" or funnel was their first solution. They knew all along the pipe couldn't take any back pressure. Bret Cahill
From: Uncle Al on 17 Jun 2010 10:33 Bret Cahill wrote: > > http://www.asesystems.com/pneumatic-jacks.shtml?gclid=CLO-zdGRpqICFRk7gwodFnMjRg > > These rubberized Kevlar bags are small uninflated and can be packed > into a canister that protects the fabric from the ragged pipe > entrance. [snipc rap] Hey stooopid, 1) Halliburton cemented the wellhead with pigeon snot. If the blowout is capped, equilibrium pressure will go beyond 15,000 psig and blow the hardware like a champagne cork. 2) The blowout is not central core, it is around the periphery of the drill string. Ya gotta plug the annulus, jackjass. BP managers ordered Trasocean engineers to omit placing centering rings to save time and money. Management is perfect in every way - perfect FUBAR, like you. 3) "Inflate" Ha ha ha. Local sea floor pressure is ~2300 psia. Blowout equilibrium pressure is ~15,000 psig. /_\E = /_\(PV), 101.325 J/liter-atm. Yer talkin' a 20,000 psi gas compressor. Hey stooopid, how does gas act at 20,000 psi? Critical pressure for nitrogen is 500 psi. Wanna plug the BP blowout? Put a refrigeration collar around the BOP (ammonia or sulfur dioxide mechanical refrigerant cycle) and progressively freeze the oil, inner wall to pipe center. Reversible at will. Thermally insulate the other side with benthic syntactic foam. Crystallized paraffins have been plugging oil wells nearly since Edwin L. Drake in 1859. idiot -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
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