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From: Yap on 9 Apr 2010 23:55 On 9 Apr, 23:41, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote: > On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Raymond Yohros wrote: > > > On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: > > >> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured > > >> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he > > >> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are > > >> not aware of it. In other words: > > > >> "Happy Easter" > > > > more than a hundred thousand people where > > > crusified around jesus times. this cruel way > > > of death can leave a mark in the persons > > > soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in > > > a flashback or dream. > > > sometimes waking up with a breathing > > > dificulty. > > > 1) Define 'soul'. > > 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. > > a ja, you got me! .) > > yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense to talk > about stuff that is almost imposible to prove > but it is "my personal believe" that a life > its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape > in contrast with youre actions and the effect > you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. You have a conscious to act morally and in a right way. Each of us is insignifican to this world, but you don't have a right to have your intelligence trashed by ancient con stories. (I may be wrong with the word "intelligence" which might not have come with you). > > regards > r.y- Sembunyikan teks yang disebut - > > - Tunjuk teks yang dipetik -
From: dh on 12 Apr 2010 11:32 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT), john <vegan16(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: >On Apr 9, 8:19�am, WangoTango <Asgar...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >> In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9...(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> >> >> >> > >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he >> > >permit so many different >> > >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations? >> >> > � � In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options. >> >> And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the >> WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. �You are saying >> that those people are WRONG? > >haha >I love that one: >how does it go? >something about no matter which bunch you're >with, there's another bunch saying you're >going to hell. > >but wait, what if it isn't *about* bunches? > >what if it's just about *you*? > >What are *you*? What are *you* trying to >do? The main reason for all religions I'm familiar with appears to be to encourage a relationship between God and humans, not to explain exactly how and why he does everything that he does.
From: dh on 12 Apr 2010 11:32 On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >Raymond Yohros wrote: >> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: >>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: >>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured >>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he >>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are >>>>> not aware of it. In other words: >>> >>>>> "Happy Easter" >>> >>>> more than a hundred thousand people where >>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way >>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons >>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in >>>> a flashback or dream. >>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing >>>> dificulty. >>> >>> 1) Define 'soul'. >>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. >>> >> >> a ja, you got me! .) >> >> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense > >Correct. > >>to talk >> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove > >I asked for evidence, not proof. > >> but it is "my personal believe" that a life >> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape >> in contrast with youre actions and the effect >> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. >> > >You believe without evidence? >How stupid is that? Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that stupid?
From: dh on 12 Apr 2010 11:32 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:19:25 -0400, WangoTango <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9qeo(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> >> >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he >> >permit so many different >> >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations? >> >> In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options. > >And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the >WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. You are saying >that those people are WRONG? I believe everyone is wrong about some things, including you and me.
From: WangoTango on 12 Apr 2010 12:00
In article <g7f6s51so1tp62qmc53oghsqee5p3qaois(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... > On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT), john > <vegan16(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > >On Apr 9, 8:19 am, WangoTango <Asgar...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >> In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9...(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he > >> > >permit so many different > >> > >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations? > >> > >> > In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options. > >> > >> And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the > >> WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. You are saying > >> that those people are WRONG? > > > >haha > >I love that one: > >how does it go? > >something about no matter which bunch you're > >with, there's another bunch saying you're > >going to hell. > > > >but wait, what if it isn't *about* bunches? > > > >what if it's just about *you*? > > > >What are *you*? What are *you* trying to > >do? > > The main reason for all religions I'm familiar with appears > to be to encourage a relationship between God and humans, not to > explain exactly how and why he does everything that he does. How do you have a relationship with something that can't be shown to exist? How can you have a relationship with ANYONE if you don't understand their motivations and needs? |