From: Yap on
On 9 Apr, 23:41, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Raymond Yohros wrote:
> > > On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote:
> > >> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured
> > >> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he
> > >> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are
> > >> not aware of it. In other words:
>
> > >> "Happy Easter"
>
> > > more than a hundred thousand people where
> > > crusified around jesus times. this cruel way
> > > of death can leave a mark in the persons
> > > soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself  in
> > > a flashback or dream.
> > > sometimes waking up with a breathing
> > > dificulty.
>
> > 1) Define 'soul'.
> > 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists.
>
> a ja, you got me! .)
>
> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense to talk
> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove
> but it is "my personal believe" that a life
> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape
> in contrast with youre actions and the effect
> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa.
You have a conscious to act morally and in a right way.
Each of us is insignifican to this world, but you don't have a right
to have your intelligence trashed by ancient con stories. (I may be
wrong with the word "intelligence" which might not have come with
you).
>
> regards
> r.y- Sembunyikan teks yang disebut -
>
> - Tunjuk teks yang dipetik -

From: dh on
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT), john
<vegan16(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:

>On Apr 9, 8:19�am, WangoTango <Asgar...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>> In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9...(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says...
>>
>>
>>
>> > >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he
>> > >permit so many different
>> > >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations?
>>
>> > � � In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options.
>>
>> And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the
>> WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. �You are saying
>> that those people are WRONG?
>
>haha
>I love that one:
>how does it go?
>something about no matter which bunch you're
>with, there's another bunch saying you're
>going to hell.
>
>but wait, what if it isn't *about* bunches?
>
>what if it's just about *you*?
>
>What are *you*? What are *you* trying to
>do?

The main reason for all religions I'm familiar with appears
to be to encourage a relationship between God and humans, not to
explain exactly how and why he does everything that he does.

From: dh on
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler."
<Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote:

>Raymond Yohros wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote:
>>> Raymond Yohros wrote:
>>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote:
>>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured
>>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he
>>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are
>>>>> not aware of it. In other words:
>>>
>>>>> "Happy Easter"
>>>
>>>> more than a hundred thousand people where
>>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way
>>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons
>>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in
>>>> a flashback or dream.
>>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing
>>>> dificulty.
>>>
>>> 1) Define 'soul'.
>>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists.
>>>
>>
>> a ja, you got me! .)
>>
>> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense
>
>Correct.
>
>>to talk
>> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove
>
>I asked for evidence, not proof.
>
>> but it is "my personal believe" that a life
>> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape
>> in contrast with youre actions and the effect
>> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa.
>>
>
>You believe without evidence?
>How stupid is that?

Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that
stupid?
From: dh on
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:19:25 -0400, WangoTango
<Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9qeo(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says...
>>
>> >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he
>> >permit so many different
>> >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations?
>>
>> In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options.
>
>And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the
>WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. You are saying
>that those people are WRONG?

I believe everyone is wrong about some things, including you
and me.
From: WangoTango on
In article <g7f6s51so1tp62qmc53oghsqee5p3qaois(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says...
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT), john
> <vegan16(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 9, 8:19 am, WangoTango <Asgar...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9...(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he
> >> > >permit so many different
> >> > >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations?
> >>
> >> >     In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options.
> >>
> >> And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the
> >> WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture.  You are saying
> >> that those people are WRONG?
> >
> >haha
> >I love that one:
> >how does it go?
> >something about no matter which bunch you're
> >with, there's another bunch saying you're
> >going to hell.
> >
> >but wait, what if it isn't *about* bunches?
> >
> >what if it's just about *you*?
> >
> >What are *you*? What are *you* trying to
> >do?
>
> The main reason for all religions I'm familiar with appears
> to be to encourage a relationship between God and humans, not to
> explain exactly how and why he does everything that he does.

How do you have a relationship with something that can't be shown to
exist?

How can you have a relationship with ANYONE if you don't understand
their motivations and needs?

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