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From: dh on 14 Apr 2010 13:17 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:59:13 -0400, WangoTango <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >In article <i249s5l6nuesr47m3kmq5csdk9o4alhm1a(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:04:29 -0400, WangoTango >> <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >In article <c8f6s5tvu4lf6bvcfqkrf4knnquii1tr8j(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> >> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:19:25 -0400, WangoTango >> >> <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9qeo(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> >> >> >> >> >> >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he >> >> >> >permit so many different >> >> >> >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations? >> >> >> >> >> >> In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options. >> >> > >> >> >And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the >> >> >WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. You are saying >> >> >that those people are WRONG? >> >> >> >> I believe everyone is wrong about some things, including you >> >> and me. >> >> >> >That's not answering the question. >> >> I choose to believe God won't send his people to hell. >> >Still tap dancing. >That begs the question, who are 'his' people? >Come out and CLEARLY answer the question FULLY. Those who ask the creator to be their Lord. >Are you afraid or just dishonest? About what?
From: dh on 14 Apr 2010 13:17 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:00:33 -0400, WangoTango <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >In article <vf49s5533g50db3na34t9kibbkqst2b8ou(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:03:29 -0400, WangoTango >> <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >In article <u7f6s5dkafl41h7j3efveu5q5rrmgl1ifa(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." >> >> <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Raymond Yohros wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >> >> >>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: >> >> >>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured >> >> >>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he >> >> >>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are >> >> >>>>> not aware of it. In other words: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> "Happy Easter" >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> more than a hundred thousand people where >> >> >>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way >> >> >>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons >> >> >>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in >> >> >>>> a flashback or dream. >> >> >>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing >> >> >>>> dificulty. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 1) Define 'soul'. >> >> >>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> a ja, you got me! .) >> >> >> >> >> >> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense >> >> > >> >> >Correct. >> >> > >> >> >>to talk >> >> >> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove >> >> > >> >> >I asked for evidence, not proof. >> >> > >> >> >> but it is "my personal believe" that a life >> >> >> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape >> >> >> in contrast with youre actions and the effect >> >> >> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >You believe without evidence? >> >> >How stupid is that? >> >> >> >> Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that >> >> stupid? >> >> >> >Sure, but implying that you have evidence, but we *just don't believe >> >it* is such an old statement that I can't believe it is still mentioned. >> > >> >The very nature of evidence is that it is examinable by others and that >> >the examination bears out facts that are testable, and that those tests >> >are repeatable. >> >> What we're doing is evidence to me, and it's obviously damned >> sure repeatable. >> >Ah, here we go again. >I remember this stupid logic loop from about a year ago. LOL. What do you think might have changed about it since then?
From: Smiler. on 14 Apr 2010 19:41 dh@. wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:12:18 +0100, "Smiler." > <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: > >> dh@. wrote: >>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:53:29 +0100, "Smiler." >>> <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >>> >>>> dh@. wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." >>>>> <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: >>>>>>>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and >>>>>>>>>> endured what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) >>>>>>>>>> we're told he did so then we all owe him great thanks, >>>>>>>>>> including those who are not aware of it. In other words: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Happy Easter" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> more than a hundred thousand people where >>>>>>>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way >>>>>>>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons >>>>>>>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in >>>>>>>>> a flashback or dream. >>>>>>>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing >>>>>>>>> dificulty. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Define 'soul'. >>>>>>>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a ja, you got me! .) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense >>>>>> >>>>>> Correct. >>>>>> >>>>>>> to talk >>>>>>> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove >>>>>> >>>>>> I asked for evidence, not proof. >>>>>> >>>>>>> but it is "my personal believe" that a life >>>>>>> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape >>>>>>> in contrast with youre actions and the effect >>>>>>> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You believe without evidence? >>>>>> How stupid is that? >>>>> >>>>> Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that >>>>> stupid? >>>> >>>> What evidence? The only things I've seen offered as supposed >>>> evidence are beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are >>>> evidence. >>> >>> The fact that the Bible survived the attempts to eliminate it >>> is one form of evidence to me. >> >> Who, when and where were attempts made to eliminate the bible? > > I don't know. I've heard about some examples, but don't > remember the specifics of any. Maybe attempts were never made to > eliminate it, but as yet I still believe they were. So it's just another of your delusions. > If you can > provide links that suggest attempts were never made to eliminate > it though, I'd be interested in seeing them. > It's not my job to disprove anything, until you supply evidence to show that it happened. Can you disprove that you don't owe me $10 million? If not, when will you be repaying me? >> Or is this just another of your beliefs? >> Like all 'holy' books, the bible is a collection of myths, fables, >> fairy tales, contradictions and downright lies. > > The point of such books is to encourage people to try > establishing a relationship with God, not explain how he did > everything that he did. The point of such books is to encourage people to believe in a fairy story that has no basis in truth. As such, they're a 'nice little earner' for the 'priest class'. -- Smiler The godless one. a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believers.
From: Smiler. on 16 Apr 2010 18:09 Merlin wrote: > On Apr 14, 7:33 pm, "Smiler." <Smi...(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: > >> I don't believe you. > > > smiler merlin has not asked you to believe anything. Yes you have. You've asked me to believe in your unevidenced god character. > merlin has said you have made a scientific challenge. > and all merlin did was too tell you that there is a way of > demonstrating for results the you seek. > > you have refused to try to the experiment recommended that may cure > your curiosity or perhaps help you find god for real for yourself. > And merkin has refused to try the experiment recommended that may help him find leprechauns for real for himself. > merlin is promoting a belief system, it isn't a religion it is a > methodology that may bring you a personal experience with god. > Merkin hasn't shown that any god exists. Until he does, I've no reason to believe in his delusions. -- Smiler The godless one. a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believers.
From: Ken on 16 Apr 2010 23:30
On Apr 15, 4:16 pm, "IlBeBa...(a)gmail.com" <ilbeba...(a)gmail.com> wrote another load of total worthless Fundy BULLCRAP not even worth quoting |