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From: dh on 13 Apr 2010 11:47 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:53:29 +0100, "Smiler." <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >dh@. wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." >> <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >> >>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: >>>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: >>>>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured >>>>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he >>>>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are >>>>>>> not aware of it. In other words: >>>>> >>>>>>> "Happy Easter" >>>>> >>>>>> more than a hundred thousand people where >>>>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way >>>>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons >>>>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in >>>>>> a flashback or dream. >>>>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing >>>>>> dificulty. >>>>> >>>>> 1) Define 'soul'. >>>>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. >>>>> >>>> >>>> a ja, you got me! .) >>>> >>>> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense >>> >>> Correct. >>> >>>> to talk >>>> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove >>> >>> I asked for evidence, not proof. >>> >>>> but it is "my personal believe" that a life >>>> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape >>>> in contrast with youre actions and the effect >>>> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. >>>> >>> >>> You believe without evidence? >>> How stupid is that? >> >> Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that >> stupid? > >What evidence? The only things I've seen offered as supposed evidence are >beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are evidence. The fact that the Bible survived the attempts to eliminate it is one form of evidence to me.
From: dh on 13 Apr 2010 11:47 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:03:29 -0400, WangoTango <Asgard24(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >In article <u7f6s5dkafl41h7j3efveu5q5rrmgl1ifa(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." >> <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >> >> >Raymond Yohros wrote: >> >> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: >> >>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >> >>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: >> >>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured >> >>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he >> >>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who are >> >>>>> not aware of it. In other words: >> >>> >> >>>>> "Happy Easter" >> >>> >> >>>> more than a hundred thousand people where >> >>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way >> >>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons >> >>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in >> >>>> a flashback or dream. >> >>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing >> >>>> dificulty. >> >>> >> >>> 1) Define 'soul'. >> >>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. >> >>> >> >> >> >> a ja, you got me! .) >> >> >> >> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense >> > >> >Correct. >> > >> >>to talk >> >> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove >> > >> >I asked for evidence, not proof. >> > >> >> but it is "my personal believe" that a life >> >> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape >> >> in contrast with youre actions and the effect >> >> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. >> >> >> > >> >You believe without evidence? >> >How stupid is that? >> >> Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that >> stupid? >> >Sure, but implying that you have evidence, but we *just don't believe >it* is such an old statement that I can't believe it is still mentioned. > >The very nature of evidence is that it is examinable by others and that >the examination bears out facts that are testable, and that those tests >are repeatable. What we're doing is evidence to me, and it's obviously damned sure repeatable.
From: john on 13 Apr 2010 11:55 On Apr 13, 9:40 am, dh@. wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:04:29 -0400, WangoTango > > > > > > <Asgar...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >In article <c8f6s5tvu4lf6bvcfqkrf4knnquii1t...(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... > >> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:19:25 -0400, WangoTango > >> <Asgar...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > > >> >In article <kdjsr59io7125h9n39s0pi2rllu78c9...(a)4ax.com>, dh@. says... > > >> >> >And if God exists in so many different dimensions and beliefs, why does he > >> >> >permit so many different > >> >> >religious beliefs and practices to confuse and mislead his creations? > > >> >> In part maybe because it gives people plenty of options. > > >> >And yet, it is stated by many of those religions that belief in the > >> >WRONG one gets you a one way ticket to eternal torture. You are saying > >> >that those people are WRONG? > > >> I believe everyone is wrong about some things, including you > >> and me. > > >That's not answering the question. > > I choose to believe God won't send his people to hell.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think J.C. said you *will* live again before you see God, and didn't Buddha add: "Many times"? And every time you live it isn't all sweetness and light. john
From: Smiler. on 13 Apr 2010 20:12 dh@. wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:53:29 +0100, "Smiler." > <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: > >> dh@. wrote: >>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." >>> <Smiler(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>>> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: >>>>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: >>>>>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: >>>>>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured >>>>>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he >>>>>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who >>>>>>>> are not aware of it. In other words: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Happy Easter" >>>>>> >>>>>>> more than a hundred thousand people where >>>>>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way >>>>>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons >>>>>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in >>>>>>> a flashback or dream. >>>>>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing >>>>>>> dificulty. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Define 'soul'. >>>>>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a ja, you got me! .) >>>>> >>>>> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense >>>> >>>> Correct. >>>> >>>>> to talk >>>>> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove >>>> >>>> I asked for evidence, not proof. >>>> >>>>> but it is "my personal believe" that a life >>>>> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape >>>>> in contrast with youre actions and the effect >>>>> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You believe without evidence? >>>> How stupid is that? >>> >>> Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that >>> stupid? >> >> What evidence? The only things I've seen offered as supposed >> evidence are beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are >> evidence. > > The fact that the Bible survived the attempts to eliminate it > is one form of evidence to me. Who, when and where were attempts made to eliminate the bible? Or is this just another of your beliefs? Like all 'holy' books, the bible is a collection of myths, fables, fairy tales, contradictions and downright lies. -- Smiler The godless one. a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believers.
From: Father Haskell on 13 Apr 2010 20:25
On Apr 13, 8:12 pm, "Smiler." <Smi...(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: > dh@. wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:53:29 +0100, "Smiler." > > <Smi...(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: > > >> dh@. wrote: > >>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:42:05 +0100, "Smiler." > >>> <Smi...(a)Jo.king.com> wrote: > > >>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: > >>>>> On Apr 8, 6:22 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)joe.king.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Raymond Yohros wrote: > >>>>>>> On Apr 4, 9:00 pm, dh@. wrote: > >>>>>>>> If God exists in any way and he came to this planet and endured > >>>>>>>> what we're told he did as Jesus for the reason(s) we're told he > >>>>>>>> did so then we all owe him great thanks, including those who > >>>>>>>> are not aware of it. In other words: > > >>>>>>>> "Happy Easter" > > >>>>>>> more than a hundred thousand people where > >>>>>>> crusified around jesus times. this cruel way > >>>>>>> of death can leave a mark in the persons > >>>>>>> soul. a mark that sometimes can show itself in > >>>>>>> a flashback or dream. > >>>>>>> sometimes waking up with a breathing > >>>>>>> dificulty. > > >>>>>> 1) Define 'soul'. > >>>>>> 2) Provide objective evidence that such a thing exists. > > >>>>> a ja, you got me! .) > > >>>>> yeah i guess it doesnt make any sense > > >>>> Correct. > > >>>>> to talk > >>>>> about stuff that is almost imposible to prove > > >>>> I asked for evidence, not proof. > > >>>>> but it is "my personal believe" that a life > >>>>> its only a very small part of a waveform that take shape > >>>>> in contrast with youre actions and the effect > >>>>> you have in youre sorroundings and viceversa. > > >>>> You believe without evidence? > >>>> How stupid is that? > > >>> Some people can't recognise any evidence at all. Is it that > >>> stupid? > > >> What evidence? The only things I've seen offered as supposed > >> evidence are beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are > >> evidence. > > > The fact that the Bible survived the attempts to eliminate it > > is one form of evidence to me. > > Who, when and where were attempts made to eliminate the bible? > Or is this just another of your beliefs? > Like all 'holy' books, the bible is a collection of myths, fables, fairy > tales, contradictions and downright lies. > > -- > Smiler > The godless one. > a.a.# 2279 > All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly > fit the prejudices of their believers.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Actually, the bible seems to contain a touch more bestiality than the other religious horror stories. |