From: Jochem Huhmann on
Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> writes:

> On 5 July, 13:47, Jochem Huhmann <j...(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> I still wait for someone actually doing some real tests by taking a 3GS
>> and a 4 and test them both in the same situations to see how they
>> compare. There's just too much speculation going on.
>
> <http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2>

Yeah, I read this days ago, it's actually what got this whole discussion
started. It seems to confirm that the iPhone 4 has massively better
reception than the 3GS, except when you grip the antenna in a certain
way and the signal is weak to begin with.


Jochem

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From: Jochem Huhmann on
me32(a)privacy.net (R) writes:

>> Why did it work worse in the WWDC keynote?
>
> To be clear: why did the iPhone 4G seem to have worse WiFi
> connectivity than the iPhone 3GS?

I have no idea. Maybe the 3GS got accidently a clean WiFi connection and
there was none left for the 4 then? This is an anecdote, not data. Try
the same in a dozen different setups with both phones and we have
something to talk about.


Jochem

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From: Sak Wathanasin on
On 5 July, 15:24, Jochem Huhmann <j...(a)gmx.net> wrote:
> Sak Wathanasin <s...(a)nan.co.uk> writes:
> > On 5 July, 13:47, Jochem Huhmann <j...(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>
> >> I still wait for someone actually doing some real tests by taking a 3GS
> >> and a 4 and test them both in the same situations to see how they
> >> compare. There's just too much speculation going on.
>
> > <http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2>
>
> Yeah, I read this days ago, it's actually what got this whole discussion

Sorry I missed that.

> started. It seems to confirm that the iPhone 4 has massively better
> reception than the 3GS, except when you grip the antenna in a certain
> way and the signal is weak to begin with.

I'm not an antenna engineer, so way beyond me, but it does sound
plausible that when you bridge the 2 antennae, you change their
behaviour.
From: Pd on
Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote:

> No, what I meant was: Someone should take a 3GS and a 4, hack both to
> display dB values instead of bars and take a few days to drive around
> and test both in several places and situations, writing down the signal
> strengths. Then we'd have real-world data to look at and compare.

But isn't that exactly what Anandtech did?

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Pd
From: Gwynne Harper on
Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> wrote:

> I still wait for someone actually doing some real tests by taking a 3GS
> and a 4 and test them both in the same situations to see how they
> compare. There's just too much speculation going on.

See Sak's link earlier in the thread:

<<http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2>>

Certainly seems objective enough, and adds some plausibility to Apple's
claims. Sadly, that means they've hadto admit "exaggerating" iPhone
signal stength these last few years; however this also explains the
claims about dropped calls in a god signal area. It wasn't, in fact, a
good signal.


Gwynne
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