From: Jacko on
Given the higgs boson has an eV rating, It should be within the bounds
to get a 95% confidence interval of how long a discovery will take.
Now if someone wants to forward themselves for on the line 99.9%
confidence interval then what collateral will be on the line?

Personally I think the Muon experiment will be the most useful, and
possibly worth the whole cost of the lot of them.
From: Y.Porat on
On Jul 23, 7:22 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 6:31 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 21, 11:11 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > NATURE: Large Hadron Collider gets yet more exotic "to-do" list
> > > The Large Hadron Collider could throw up evidence of new physics earlier
> > > than expectedhttp://links.email.scientificamerican.com/ctt?kn=16&m=35619630&r=NTM5...
>
> > ------------------
> > dont you see from  heir high  talking about should in a cople of yere
> > etc etc
> > THAT  THEY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE ??...
>
> Why? From the very *design* of the accelerator, long before it was
> built, it was known that it would take a couple years of data taking
> to get at some of the desired physics results.
>
> Why would running as planned be considered trouble?
>
> Where do you get the idea that an experimental facility that doesn't
> give you the answer you're looking for in the first week must be in
> trouble?
>
>
>
> > i espacially like that quote from them
> > (just a littel example
> > quote
> > ''giving infinite answers for the strength of particle interactions,
> > unless physicists fudge the numbers.
>
> > end of quote
> > (:-)
> > dont you see the pathetic talking
>
> > 'INFINITE    ANSWERS '''
> > common   stupid   crooks...
>
> > WE DONT NED INFINITE ANSWERS !!
>
> > WE NEED  just   A FEW GOD ONCE !!!
> > we like  modest people !!!
>
> > not to mention that
> > 'curved space' is not even in their big mouth   !!!
>
> > with big hands
>
> > and small mouths    !!!
>
> > ATB
> > Y.Porat
> > ----------------------

because i know betetr the basic of physics
than tose parrots

for instance

NO MASS (THE ONLY ONE!) NO REAL PHYSICS!
and if right wich i am pretty sure
no Higgs bosons that delivers particles teir mass
a real particle
DOES NOT6 NEED ANUYHING TO DELIVER IT ITS MASS
because ?? guess what
a mattwer of basic intelligence
based on the above rule!!
2
NO FORCE MESSENGER CAN BE '!!
BIGGER IN ANY ASPECT THAN ITS' MOTHER

that is as well basics of physics understandings
for instance
conservation of momentum !!
3
no ''force messenger'' that moves in a straight line
canm be an atttraction force agent
there for for instance
a photon cannot be any attraction agent !!!
etc etc
anyone who does not understand those basics
and goes on teaching it to the young generation
is sinning against advance of science
or
at least tell them:
thjere are scientists that reject those
silly questionable paradigms

and you young guys
dont take the parroting for granted --
just take it is questionable paradigms !!

ATB
Y.Porat
----------------------------

ATB
Y.Porat
--------------------------



From: PD on
On Jul 24, 9:15 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 7:22 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 6:31 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 21, 11:11 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > NATURE: Large Hadron Collider gets yet more exotic "to-do" list
> > > > The Large Hadron Collider could throw up evidence of new physics earlier
> > > > than expectedhttp://links.email.scientificamerican.com/ctt?kn=16&m=35619630&r=NTM5...
>
> > > ------------------
> > > dont you see from  heir high  talking about should in a cople of yere
> > > etc etc
> > > THAT  THEY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE ??...
>
> > Why? From the very *design* of the accelerator, long before it was
> > built, it was known that it would take a couple years of data taking
> > to get at some of the desired physics results.
>
> > Why would running as planned be considered trouble?
>
> > Where do you get the idea that an experimental facility that doesn't
> > give you the answer you're looking for in the first week must be in
> > trouble?
>
> > > i espacially like that quote from them
> > > (just a littel example
> > > quote
> > > ''giving infinite answers for the strength of particle interactions,
> > > unless physicists fudge the numbers.
>
> > > end of quote
> > > (:-)
> > > dont you see the pathetic talking
>
> > > 'INFINITE    ANSWERS '''
> > > common   stupid   crooks...
>
> > > WE DONT NED INFINITE ANSWERS !!
>
> > > WE NEED  just   A FEW GOD ONCE !!!
> > > we like  modest people !!!
>
> > > not to mention that
> > > 'curved space' is not even in their big mouth   !!!
>
> > > with big hands
>
> > > and small mouths    !!!
>
> > > ATB
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ----------------------
>
> because  i know betetr the basic of physics
> than tose parrots

And there, Porat, you've just shown yourself to be a deluded, arrogant
fool.

You'd be a fool to tell a surgeon that he's wasting his time with
surgical procedures because you understand the basics of medicine
better than surgeons.
You'd be a fool to tell an aeronautical engineer that he's wasting his
time with his designs because you understand the basics of aeronautics
better than aeronautical engineers.
You'd be a fool to tell a molecular biologist that he's wasting his
time with his work on DNA because you understand the basics of biology
better than molecular biologists.

And you're a fool here.

>
> for instance
>
> NO MASS (THE ONLY ONE!) NO REAL PHYSICS!
> and if right wich i am pretty sure
> no Higgs bosons that delivers particles teir mass
> a real particle
> DOES NOT6 NEED ANUYHING TO  DELIVER IT ITS MASS
> because ?? guess what
> a mattwer of basic intelligence
> based on the above rule!!
> 2
> NO FORCE MESSENGER CAN BE '!!
> BIGGER IN ANY ASPECT THAN ITS' MOTHER
>
> that is as well basics of physics understandings
> for instance
> conservation of momentum !!
> 3
> no ''force messenger'' that moves in a straight line
> canm be an atttraction force agent
> there for for instance
> a photon cannot be any attraction agent  !!!
> etc etc
> anyone who does not understand those basics
> and goes on teaching it to  the young generation
> is sinning against  advance of science
> or
> at least tell them:
> thjere are scientists that reject those
> silly  questionable    paradigms
>
> and you  young guys
> dont   take the parroting for  granted   --
> just take it is questionable paradigms  !!
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ----------------------------
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------

From: Robert Higgins on
On Jul 24, 10:15 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 7:22 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 6:31 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 21, 11:11 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > NATURE: Large Hadron Collider gets yet more exotic "to-do" list
> > > > The Large Hadron Collider could throw up evidence of new physics earlier
> > > > than expectedhttp://links.email.scientificamerican.com/ctt?kn=16&m=35619630&r=NTM5...
>
> > > ------------------
> > > dont you see from  heir high  talking about should in a cople of yere
> > > etc etc
> > > THAT  THEY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE ??...
>
> > Why? From the very *design* of the accelerator, long before it was
> > built, it was known that it would take a couple years of data taking
> > to get at some of the desired physics results.
>
> > Why would running as planned be considered trouble?
>
> > Where do you get the idea that an experimental facility that doesn't
> > give you the answer you're looking for in the first week must be in
> > trouble?
>
> > > i espacially like that quote from them
> > > (just a littel example
> > > quote
> > > ''giving infinite answers for the strength of particle interactions,
> > > unless physicists fudge the numbers.
>
> > > end of quote
> > > (:-)
> > > dont you see the pathetic talking
>
> > > 'INFINITE    ANSWERS '''
> > > common   stupid   crooks...
>
> > > WE DONT NED INFINITE ANSWERS !!
>
> > > WE NEED  just   A FEW GOD ONCE !!!
> > > we like  modest people !!!
>
> > > not to mention that
> > > 'curved space' is not even in their big mouth   !!!
>
> > > with big hands
>
> > > and small mouths    !!!
>
> > > ATB
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ----------------------
>
> because  i know betetr the basic of physics
> than tose parrots
>
> for instance
>
> NO MASS (THE ONLY ONE!) NO REAL PHYSICS!

No Mass - No REAL Catholicism!

> and if right wich i am pretty sure

that you're not.

> no Higgs bosons that delivers particles teir mass
> a real particle
> DOES NOT6 NEED ANUYHING TO  DELIVER IT ITS MASS
> because ?? guess what
> a mattwer of basic intelligence

How could you even comment on issues of "basic intelligence", since
you have none?

> based on the above rule!!
> 2
> NO FORCE MESSENGER CAN BE '!!
> BIGGER IN ANY ASPECT THAN ITS' MOTHER

Are you "bigger" than your mother?

>
> that is as well basics of physics understandings
> for instance
> conservation of momentum !!
> 3
> no ''force messenger'' that moves in a straight line
> canm be an atttraction force agent
> there for for instance
> a photon cannot be any attraction agent  !!!
> etc etc
> anyone who does not understand those basics
> and goes on teaching it to  the young generation
> is sinning against  advance of science

"Please bless me father, for I have sinned. It has been three months
since my last Confession."

> or
> at least tell them:
> thjere are scientists that reject those
> silly  questionable    paradigms

No, there aren't. Lying "engineers" who can't do simple math don't
qualify as "scientists".

>
> and you  young guys
> dont   take the parroting for  granted   --
> just take it is questionable paradigms  !!
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ----------------------------
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> --------------------------

From: eric gisse on
artful wrote:
[...]

>
> You really are paranoid and delusional .. get help.

I think it is getting worse.