The future of Java
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From: Qu0ll on 21 Nov 2009 01:20 "Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message news:4b073951$0$277$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... > Qu0ll wrote: >> Interesting article on the future of Java: >> >> http://infoworld.com/d/developer-world/java-what-does-its-future-hold-978?page=0,0 > > I think it is more of a summary of what is known than actually > providing new angles. Perhaps, but I still found it interesting. -- And loving it, -Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct) _________________________________________________ Qu0llSixFour(a)gmail.com [Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me]
From: Roedy Green on 21 Nov 2009 11:01 On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:48:47 -0500, Arne Vajh�j <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Their finances were not that good before (else they would >not have been put up for sale!) and now IBM and HP has lured >away a slice of customers. Just a short while ago Sun was cash rich. Are you just assuming it was put up for sale, or did you read somewhere they did that? I guess it is not like putting it up on Craig's List. Possible buyers are well aware of when Sun was financially vulnerable to takeover. Years ago I read that computer companies often do well in recessions. Companies try to save money by firing people and replacing them with computers. I figured Sun should weather the recession. On the other paw, I have read the Internet as a whole has had a slowdown which would hurt Sun. They pretty well need constant expansion to keep the server sales going. Sun now sends me at least one email a day hoping to drum up sales. That is much more aggressive than before. Sun's behaviour over the years has been exemplary. They have been honest with customers. They have not betrayed them the way corporations often do. They have been generous. Their products are good quality. I hope there is some way they can continue much as before. Even if they are swallowed in the blender, I would like to publicly thank them their part in providing me Java, MySQL and Open Office. Others would add to that list, particularly NetBeans. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com Finding a bug is a sign you were asleep a the switch when coding. Stop debugging, and go back over your code line by line.
From: Arne Vajhøj on 21 Nov 2009 12:10 Roedy Green wrote: > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:48:47 -0500, Arne Vajh�j <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >> Their finances were not that good before (else they would >> not have been put up for sale!) and now IBM and HP has lured >> away a slice of customers. > > Just a short while ago Sun was cash rich. Are you just assuming it was > put up for sale, or did you read somewhere they did that? I guess it > is not like putting it up on Craig's List. Possible buyers are well > aware of when Sun was financially vulnerable to takeover. SUN's had a loss of 2.2 billion dollar in FY 2009. It is public that SUN negotiated with both IBM and Oracle. According to gossip then HP were also approached. > Years ago I read that computer companies often do well in recessions. > Companies try to save money by firing people and replacing them with > computers. Sure. Those making money from cheap Linux and Windows system may do fine. But the market for high end systems and storage are not that well. And IBM and HP seems to be doing better than SUN in that market. > Sun's behaviour over the years has been exemplary. They have been > honest with customers. They have not betrayed them the way > corporations often do. They have been generous. Their products are > good quality. I hope there is some way they can continue much as > before. There are still people that will never forgive SUN for the SunOS 4->5 isuues. > Even if they are swallowed in the blender, I would like to publicly > thank them their part in providing me Java, MySQL and Open Office. SUN did not provide you MySQL. SUN just acquired the company not long ago. And have lost most of the original people since then. Arne
From: Lew on 21 Nov 2009 13:08 Roedy Green wrote: >> Even if they are swallowed in the blender, I would like to publicly >> thank them their part in providing me Java, MySQL and Open Office. Arne Vajhøj wrote: > SUN did not provide you MySQL. SUN just acquired the company > not long ago. And have lost most of the original people since then. Small loss. I rate MySQL far, far below Postgres, Derby and the free versions of Oracle DB and IBM DB2. -- Lew
From: Martin Gregorie on 21 Nov 2009 13:59
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:08:32 -0500, Lew wrote: > > I rate MySQL far, far below Postgres, Derby and the free versions of > Oracle DB and IBM DB2. > How do you rate H2 against Derby and HSQL? I see that it can use PostgreSQL JDBJ drivers, so how close are the Postgres and H2 dialects of SQL? -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |