The future of Java
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From: Arved Sandstrom on 21 Nov 2009 14:56 Lew wrote: > Roedy Green wrote: >>> Even if they are swallowed in the blender, I would like to publicly >>> thank them their part in providing me Java, MySQL and Open Office. > > Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> SUN did not provide you MySQL. SUN just acquired the company >> not long ago. And have lost most of the original people since then. > > Small loss. > > I rate MySQL far, far below Postgres, Derby and the free versions of > Oracle DB and IBM DB2. > That's roughly my take on it as well. Choosing from PostgreSQL, SQL Server or Oracle XE for my local work on Windows/Linux/Mac OS X lets me do everything I need to do to support my company's clients. In fact I use SQL Server on the odd .NET project only to keep acquainted; otherwise I'd pare my choices down to Postgres and Oracle XE. Nothing against Derby - I just haven't had occasion to use it now for some years. AHS
From: Stefan Lotties on 21 Nov 2009 18:15 > Perhaps we'll see Sunacle switch resources away from OpenJDK, and start maintaining a for-pay branch > which gets all the new performance goodies. Or just refuse to support the > free JDK in production environments; often, that's enough to persuade a > corporate user to stump up for a paid version. Oracle already got a for-pay JVM with lots of performance (and management) goodies when they bought Bea. Well, at least I've heard JRockit were *that* good, but I haven't tried out yet. Therefore it's much more interesting what'll happen to both of the JVM's. Will they be kept separate? Will Oracle try to combine them? We'll see...
From: John B. Matthews on 21 Nov 2009 21:07 In article <he9d9o$vf0$1(a)localhost.localdomain>, Martin Gregorie <martin(a)address-in-sig.invalid> wrote: > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:08:32 -0500, Lew wrote: > > > I rate MySQL far, far below Postgres, Derby and the free versions > > of Oracle DB and IBM DB2. > > > How do you rate H2 against Derby and HSQL? I see that it can use > PostgreSQL JDBJ drivers, so how close are the Postgres and H2 > dialects of SQL? In embedded mode, H2 starts up and runs queries more quickly than Derby; I haven't used HSQLDB. My testing is limited, but I haven't found any counter-examples to the author's claims: <http://www.h2database.com/html/performance.html> H2 client-server performance is good, and portability is no worse than most. In a JDBC application developed with H2 and intended to be portable, PostgreSQL proved to be easiest target, while MySQL was the hardest; Oracle and Firebird were in between. -- John B. Matthews trashgod at gmail dot com <http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>
From: Qu0ll on 21 Nov 2009 21:53 "Arved Sandstrom" <dcest61(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9CXNm.54457$PH1.35011(a)edtnps82... > Lew wrote: >> Roedy Green wrote: >>>> Even if they are swallowed in the blender, I would like to publicly >>>> thank them their part in providing me Java, MySQL and Open Office. >> >> Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> SUN did not provide you MySQL. SUN just acquired the company >>> not long ago. And have lost most of the original people since then. >> >> Small loss. >> >> I rate MySQL far, far below Postgres, Derby and the free versions of >> Oracle DB and IBM DB2. >> > That's roughly my take on it as well. Choosing from PostgreSQL, SQL Server > or Oracle XE for my local work on Windows/Linux/Mac OS X lets me do > everything I need to do to support my company's clients. In fact I use SQL > Server on the odd .NET project only to keep acquainted; otherwise I'd pare > my choices down to Postgres and Oracle XE. Nothing against Derby - I just > haven't had occasion to use it now for some years. The beauty of using Derby of course is that it just installs as part of your application. No separate or specialised installers required. -- And loving it, -Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct) _________________________________________________ Qu0llSixFour(a)gmail.com [Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me]
From: Arved Sandstrom on 21 Nov 2009 23:47
Qu0ll wrote: > "Arved Sandstrom" <dcest61(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9CXNm.54457$PH1.35011(a)edtnps82... >> Lew wrote: >>> Roedy Green wrote: >>>>> Even if they are swallowed in the blender, I would like to publicly >>>>> thank them their part in providing me Java, MySQL and Open Office. >>> >>> Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>>> SUN did not provide you MySQL. SUN just acquired the company >>>> not long ago. And have lost most of the original people since then. >>> >>> Small loss. >>> >>> I rate MySQL far, far below Postgres, Derby and the free versions of >>> Oracle DB and IBM DB2. >>> >> That's roughly my take on it as well. Choosing from PostgreSQL, SQL >> Server or Oracle XE for my local work on Windows/Linux/Mac OS X lets >> me do everything I need to do to support my company's clients. In fact >> I use SQL Server on the odd .NET project only to keep acquainted; >> otherwise I'd pare my choices down to Postgres and Oracle XE. Nothing >> against Derby - I just haven't had occasion to use it now for some years. > > The beauty of using Derby of course is that it just installs as part of > your application. No separate or specialised installers required. > I certainly run across it a fair bit - for example, Sonar, which I use a lot, has embedded Derby by default. AHS |