From: Hatunen on
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:16:10 +1300, "PaulJK"
<paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>Hatunen wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:14:54 -0500, "Brian M. Scott"
>> <b.scott(a)csuohio.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:59:23 -0700, Hatunen
>>> <hatunen(a)cox.net> wrote in
>>> <news:68tlo51lbskir5ingugspogfsu33pcguo9(a)4ax.com> in
>>> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:57:10 -0500, "Brian M. Scott"
>>>> <b.scott(a)csuohio.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> That may be another point of contention: pleasantly cool
>>>>> means about 25�, and really good weather starts at about
>>>>> 30�. And 5:30 or 6:15 is a nice time to go to bed.
>>>
>>>> I do hope you mean celsius degrees.
>>>
>>> I do indeed; Rob's posting from Oz.
>>
>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C"
>> or "F".
>
>Don't forget "R" and "K" !

I, for one, make very few posts requiring either.


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From: Hatunen on
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:19:23 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote:

>On Feb 28, 9:40�pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:44:53 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On Feb 28, 6:29 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:09:57 -0800, David Harmon
>>
>> >> <sou...(a)netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper
>> >> ><tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote,
>> >> >>As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on
>> >> >>President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the
>>
>> >> >There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices.
>> >> >http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp
>>
>> >> Interesting. I had assumed there was. And I see that there is one
>> >> in some states. Certainly businesses think there is one in their
>> >> sales advertisements.
>>
>> >The Post Office was closed for Presidents' Day in 2010.
>>
>> Not an American post office. They were closed for Washington's
>> Birthday, no matter what a sign on the door or whatnot might have
>> said.
>
>Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian),
>and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15.

You need to see the site that someone cited back there somewhere.
The Federal holiday is officially Washington's Birthday, but is
celebrated on a Monday. There was a move once to create a
Presidents' Day holiday, but it wasn't passed. Google for -
presidents day - abd see for yourself.

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From: Hatunen on
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:51:09 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote:

>In some states, we think Lincoln was pretty important, too.
>
>We note that you moved to a part of the country where Lincoln is
>despised.

But that is not the question at hand.

>In case you can't remember, Lincoln was born on the very same day as
>Charles Darwin, and his birthday was a state holiday in each of the
>two states I lived in before 39 years ago..

What this has to do with the federal holiday of Washington's
Birthday escapes me.

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From: Hatunen on
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:47:53 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote:

>> Is your "We" an insular "We" or a Royal "We"? �For what group do you
>> speak? �New Yorkers, linguists, or generally-considered-to-be-potty
>> cross-posters?
>
>If you have so much trouble interpreting simple English, why do you
>hang around a.u.e.?

More irony.


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From: Hatunen on
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:23:39 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote:

>On Feb 28, 9:50�pm, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> > On Feb 28, 1:42 am, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> >>> On Feb 26, 1:40 am, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Do the Pacific states get the same coverage we do?
>>
>> >>>> Ignoring the various pay, satellite, and cable channels, there
>> >>>> are about twelve free-to-air locally broadcast channels.
>> >>>> One of the free-to-air channels (Prime) broadcasts Winter
>> >>>> Olympics every day nonstop from 5:30am to 6:30pm. Looking
>> >>>> at today's Friday schedule, apart from the half-hour WO news
>> >>>> at 5:30am and Cross Country skiing at 10:30-11:30am all the
>> >>>> events are live.
>>
>> >>>> If by "same coverage" you mean "identical programming" then
>> >>>> the answer is no. All commentators are either New Zealanders
>> >>>> or people who are aware of commenting for the downunder
>> >>>> or specifically kiwi audience. Now and then they interrupt
>> >>>> the program to switch to another competition to show
>> >>>> a kiwi athlete, who would we normally not see, perform
>> >>>> their shtick and then switch back.
>>
>> >>> Eh? You take "Pacific states" -- in the context of time zones -- to
>> >>> include New Zealand??
>>
>> >> Whoops, sorry, I didn't realise that by "Pacific states" you meant
>> >> "US Pacific states".
>>
>> > We very, very, very rarely use "state" to mean 'independent nation'.
>>
>> And we very, very, very rarely use the expression "Pacific states"
>> which would exclude the majority of Pacific states (i.e. non-US
>> states in the Pacific).
>
>"Pacific states" is a wel-established term -- sometimes it includes AK
>and HI, sometimes not.
>
>> This just shows that no matter how hard I try I still sometimes
>> fail to correctly translate Merkin E. semantics to English E.
>
>"State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving
>a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also
>in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany.

Germany doesn't have states, it has laender.

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