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From: Nick on 1 Mar 2010 14:10 "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > On Mar 1, 2:59 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >> >> > "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving >> > a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also >> > in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. >> >> So are you suggesting that "failed state" and "rogue state" are >> expressions that have no meaning in the US. > > No, thre is a difference between a bare noun and a qualified noun. Did > you not see that I used "nation-state" above? So "state" doesn't mean US state when qualified with - oh how about "Pacific". OK that's perfectly clear. <pepperpot>There, I've run rings around you logically</pepperpot> -- Online waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk
From: Mike Lyle on 1 Mar 2010 14:53 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Mar 1, 8:35 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:51:09 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >> >> >> >> >> >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >>>>> Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 >>>>> (Gregorian), and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15. >> >>>> Your foot's bleeding again. Have the bullet removed before the >>>> wound festers. >> >>>> Washington's Birthday was officially shifted to the third Monday in >>>> February by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971. The federal >>>> holiday has never officially been changed to President's Day. >> >>>> The change was made 39 years ago. You've never noticed? >> >>> In some states, we think Lincoln was pretty important, too. >> >>> We note that you moved to a part of the country where Lincoln is >>> despised. >> >> If there's an anti-Lincoln sentiment in Florida I'm not aware of it. >> To be honest about it - and I should be when Abe is involved - >> Lincoln really isn't the subject of many conversations around here. > > That says something right there. > >> Is your "We" an insular "We" or a Royal "We"? For what group do you >> speak? New Yorkers, linguists, or generally-considered-to-be-potty >> cross-posters? > > If you have so much trouble interpreting simple English, why do you > hang around a.u.e.? > > The "we" are the residents of New York and Illinois. Perhaps "generally-considered-to-be-potty cross-posters" goes without saying. -- Mike.
From: Adam Funk on 1 Mar 2010 15:25 On 2010-03-01, Hatunen wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:16:10 +1300, "PaulJK" ><paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>Hatunen wrote: >>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C" >>> or "F". >> >>Don't forget "R" and "K" ! > > I, for one, make very few posts requiring either. I don't think I've every seen an R or K thermometer (except in books). -- "Mrs CJ and I avoid clichés like the plague."
From: Peter T. Daniels on 1 Mar 2010 16:39 On Mar 1, 2:10 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: > "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: > > > On Mar 1, 2:59 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote: > >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: > > >> > "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving > >> > a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also > >> > in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. > > >> So are you suggesting that "failed state" and "rogue state" are > >> expressions that have no meaning in the US. > > > No, there is a difference between a bare noun and a qualified noun. Did > > you not see that I used "nation-state" above? > > So "state" doesn't mean US state when qualified with - oh how about > "Pacific". OK that's perfectly clear. Wait a minute, you're posting from one of the mathematical groups and you don't even understand first-year logic? Don't you know the difference between converses and inverses versus contrapositives? > <pepperpot>There, I've run rings around you logically</pepperpot>
From: Peter T. Daniels on 1 Mar 2010 16:41
On Mar 1, 11:48 am, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:23:39 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" > <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >On Feb 28, 9:50 pm, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> Peter T. Daniels wrote: > >> > On Feb 28, 1:42 am, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> Peter T. Daniels wrote: > >> >>> On Feb 26, 1:40 am, "PaulJK" <paul.kr...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>> Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > >> >>>>> Do the Pacific states get the same coverage we do? > > >> >>>> Ignoring the various pay, satellite, and cable channels, there > >> >>>> are about twelve free-to-air locally broadcast channels. > >> >>>> One of the free-to-air channels (Prime) broadcasts Winter > >> >>>> Olympics every day nonstop from 5:30am to 6:30pm. Looking > >> >>>> at today's Friday schedule, apart from the half-hour WO news > >> >>>> at 5:30am and Cross Country skiing at 10:30-11:30am all the > >> >>>> events are live. > > >> >>>> If by "same coverage" you mean "identical programming" then > >> >>>> the answer is no. All commentators are either New Zealanders > >> >>>> or people who are aware of commenting for the downunder > >> >>>> or specifically kiwi audience. Now and then they interrupt > >> >>>> the program to switch to another competition to show > >> >>>> a kiwi athlete, who would we normally not see, perform > >> >>>> their shtick and then switch back. > > >> >>> Eh? You take "Pacific states" -- in the context of time zones -- to > >> >>> include New Zealand?? > > >> >> Whoops, sorry, I didn't realise that by "Pacific states" you meant > >> >> "US Pacific states". > > >> > We very, very, very rarely use "state" to mean 'independent nation'. > > >> And we very, very, very rarely use the expression "Pacific states" > >> which would exclude the majority of Pacific states (i.e. non-US > >> states in the Pacific). > > >"Pacific states" is a wel-established term -- sometimes it includes AK > >and HI, sometimes not. > > >> This just shows that no matter how hard I try I still sometimes > >> fail to correctly translate Merkin E. semantics to English E. > > >"State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving > >a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also > >in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. > > Germany doesn't have states, it has laender. Which, in English, are called states. In preparation for my invited- lecture visit at the beginning of April, I'm looking at websites and today picked out a guidebook (ended up with Michelin), and they use "state." |