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From: Brian M. Scott on 23 Feb 2010 11:37 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:47:50 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in <news:f7fabd1d-91cc-413d-96ca-38c1f6ba3d09(a)f8g2000vba.googlegroups.com> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > On Feb 23, 12:52�am, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:32:03 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote in >> <news:ad442cf6-ce22-4ffe-b05b-786b865fb3fc(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> >> in >> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >>> On Feb 22, 10:55�pm, "Brian M. Scott" >>> <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> [...] >>>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. �As >>>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >>>> of year in any climate at any latitude. �In winter at higher >>>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >>>> disadvantages. �I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >>>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >>>> benefit of as much daylight as possible. >>> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school >>> in the dark. >> I hadn't noticed that DST would make much difference to that >> in many of the places that I've lived. > Who was it said "I couldn't care less how dark it is in the morning"? I did. So? 'Morning' covers rather a lot, and the fact remains that at the time of day that kids are going to school, DST doesn't necessarily make a great deal of difference in the amount of daylight.
From: Brian M. Scott on 23 Feb 2010 11:40 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:19:21 +1300, PaulJK <paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote in <news:hlvvbr$50g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > Brian M. Scott wrote: >> R H Draney wrote: >> [...] >>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>> Daylight Saving Time.... >>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >> year round. > I would prefer if every 24 hour day was made longer by one > hour, i.e. 25 hours long. [...] I'm not sure that 25 hours would be quite long enough. Brian
From: sjdevnull on 23 Feb 2010 11:54 On Feb 23, 9:36 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On 2/23/2010 8:39 AM, sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > On Feb 23, 6:19 am, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered busing > >> has most kids riding the bus to school anyway > > > Court-ordered busing never affected a substantial fraction of US > > school children (it peaked at below 5%, IIRC) and since 1980 or so has > > been very limited. Post-2000, it's headed toward extinction. > > In what jurisdiction has it been discontinued? Most of them. See, e.g., http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/11/us/by-court-order-busing-ends-where-it-began.html?pagewanted=1 "CHARLOTTE, N.C., Sept. 10 The school system that pioneered busing for desegregation three decades ago was ordered today to halt the program by a Federal judge who ruled that forced integration was no longer necessary because all vestiges of intentional discrimination had disappeared." http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-52114978.html "DAYTON, Ohio (AP) _ A federal judge lifted a desegregation order Monday after the city agreed to spend at least $30 million to improve public schools, ending more than 25 years of cross-town busing designed to achieve racial balance in the schools." http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/views/y/1999/03/delaney.busing.mar18/ "Court-ordered busing ended in Boston in 1987." Feel free to Google more.
From: Brian M. Scott on 23 Feb 2010 11:56 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:16:59 +0000, Ant�nio Marques <antonioprm(a)sapo.pt> wrote in <news:hm0kgg$548$1(a)news.eternal-september.org> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > Adam Funk wrote (23-02-2010 11:39): >> On 2010-02-23, Andrew Usher wrote: >>>>> The Catholic Church has stated, I believe more than >>>>> once (it's linked to somewhere in this thread) that >>>>> fixing Easter to a particular week would be >>>>> acceptable. >> ("Catholic" is a commonly used but imprecise abbreviation >> of "Roman Catholic".) >>> Peter T. Daniels wrote: >>>> "The Catholic Church" (which refers to no specific >>>> organization) hasn't spoken for all of Christendom for >>>> nearly half a millennium. >>> 'The Catholic Church' or simply 'The Church' refers to >>> exactly one organisation. It's disingenuous to pretend >>> otherwise. Also, it's been longer than half a >>> millennium if one includes the East. >> The "Roman Catholic Church", the "Old Catholic Church", >> and the "Polish National Catholic Church" are >> independent of each other. >> The "Eastern Catholic Churches" are under papal authority >> but I don't think they describe themselves as "Roman >> Catholic". > Gad, not again! You're trolling, aren't you? > "Roman Catholic" ISN'T AN OFFICIAL SELF-DESIGNATION. > ANYWHERE. It and RC are, however, widely used popular designations. > In the tradition from which the Roman and the Greek > Churches come, the Church has no splitting qualifiers. But this isn't really relevant outside that tradition. [...] > From the Church's point of view, there aren't multiple > churches. But from an external point of view there very obviously are. [...] > When someone mentions 'catholics', it's not to eastern > orthodox, old or polish catholics that they are refering > to. I have personally heard counterexamples to this assertion, though I grant that they are rare. [...] > but it *is* accurate to say that the ECC are 'non-Latin > CC', even if it's somewhat unwieldy. Which in a widely used popular terminology becomes 'Catholic but not Roman Catholic'. Brian
From: António Marques on 23 Feb 2010 12:11
jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote (23-02-2010 15:44): > In sci.physics Andrew Usher<k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: >> >>>>>> I chose the Christian holidays because they are international, >>>>> >>>>> ??? >>>> >>>> They're more so than any other holidays, are they not? >>> >>> I suspect that you could find people celebrating Pesach, Purim, Rosh >>> Hashanah, and Yom Kippur in as many countries as any four Christian >>> holidays. >> >> Well, yes, but not _more people_. >> >> Andrew Usher > > With roughly 1.3 billion Chinese alone, New Years is celebrated by a LOT > more people. Don't they celebrate it on a different date? |