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From: Skitt on 1 Mar 2010 01:39 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > Hatunen wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: >>> Hatunen wrote: >>>> David Harmon wrote: >>>>> There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government >>>>> offices. >>>>> http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp >>>> >>>> Interesting. I had assumed there was. And I see that there is one >>>> in some states. Certainly businesses think there is one in their >>>> sales advertisements. >>> >>> The Post Office was closed for Presidents' Day in 2010. >> >> Not an American post office. They were closed for Washington's >> Birthday, no matter what a sign on the door or whatnot might have >> said. > > Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian), > and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15. Sorry, that's not the way it works. In case you did not read what the Feds have at http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp here is what it says about the holiday that was celebrated on the 15th of February this year: This holiday is designated as "Washington's Birthday" in section 6103(a) of title 5 of the United States Code, which is the law that specifies holidays for Federal employees. Though other institutions such as state and local governments and private businesses may use other names, it is our policy to always refer to holidays by the names designated in the law. Maybe that's not the way it should be, but the government moves in mysterious ways, innit? -- Skitt (AmE)
From: James Hogg on 1 Mar 2010 01:47 tony cooper wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:19:23 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" > <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >> On Feb 28, 9:40 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:44:53 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >>>> On Feb 28, 6:29 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:09:57 -0800, David Harmon >>>>> <sou...(a)netcom.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper >>>>>> <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote, >>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on >>>>>>> President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the >>>>>> There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices. >>>>>> http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp >>>>> Interesting. I had assumed there was. And I see that there is one >>>>> in some states. Certainly businesses think there is one in their >>>>> sales advertisements. >>>> The Post Office was closed for Presidents' Day in 2010. >>> Not an American post office. They were closed for Washington's >>> Birthday, no matter what a sign on the door or whatnot might have >>> said. >> Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian), >> and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15. > > Your foot's bleeding again. Have the bullet removed before the wound > festers. > > Washington's Birthday was officially shifted to the third Monday in > February by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971. The federal > holiday has never officially been changed to President's Day. > > The change was made 39 years ago. You've never noticed? It was assumed that you would supply the quantifier "some". -- James
From: Nick on 1 Mar 2010 02:59 "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving > a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also > in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. So are you suggesting that "failed state" and "rogue state" are expressions that have no meaning in the US. Because I thought that's where they both originated. Or do they only apply to one of your provinces going off the rails? -- Online waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk
From: James Hogg on 1 Mar 2010 03:02 Nick wrote: > "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > >> "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving >> a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also >> in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. > > So are you suggesting that "failed state" and "rogue state" are > expressions that have no meaning in the US. > > Because I thought that's where they both originated. Or do they only > apply to one of your provinces going off the rails? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Rogue_State_Park -- James
From: Leslie Danks on 1 Mar 2010 04:25
Peter T. Daniels wrote: [...] > "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving > a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also > in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. The word is "Land" or "Bundesland" in Germany and Austria. As is the case for most political entities, exact translations are impossible and the terms are frequently left untranslated in English texts (and often written in italics). If members of English-speaking tribes wish to invent translations, it is up to them to deal with any ambiguities that may arise. The countries of the EU are known as "member states". -- Les (BrE) |