There is no “pull” of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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From: NoEinstein on 23 Feb 2010 10:38 On Feb 20, 8:54 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > Dear John: The Universe is a finite bubble of ether (and matter made from ether). The bubble is bounded by a magnetic meniscus which forms the longest continuous lines of (push) force in the Universe. Magnetic flux is vulnerable to having the lines broken by strong photon emissions. That's why magnetic flux tends to concentrate near massive objects. There, the lines "stake out" locations around which the light must pass. Electrons aren't the creative source of photons. Since electrons have no mass they are incapable of giving off photons. The valence rings in which the electrons orbit CAN give of photons. There are only so many IOTAs that can be pushed around inside each valence ring. When an outside light source has a frequency matching the valence ring, the excess energy corresponding to that ring throws off corresponding photons. The latter is the re emission of photonssometimes wrongly referred to as... reflections, but 1/2 phase out of step. Neither gravity nor electromotive forces will have "influence" over universal distances, except for the meniscuses bounding the ether (also the Swiss Cheese void between galaxies). NoEinstein > > On Feb 20, 12:52 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 19, 8:33 pm, NoEinstein aka Androcles etc wrote: > > > > On Feb 18, 12:01 pm, john parker aka Androcles etc wrote: > > > > > john- Hide quoted text - > > > > Bravo! NoEinstein > > > Boo to both one of you, even though we both agree that a > > g-force is a push, not a pull. Indeed, since a force is a > > net pressure, it is ALWAYS a push. > > A "force of attraction" is a push TOWARD the causative agent. > > A "force of repulsion" is a push AWAY from the causative agent. > > Since a g-field is a density gradient, it is always centered on > > "the causative agent', which is the matter-unit that causes it to > > exist. > > > glird > > Everything is push. Sometimes it comes to shove. > > Electrons are just like galactic arms; they > emanate just like millions of suns, but at > much higher frequency.. > There is universe forever in all directions > with matter just like ours, so the emanations from > electrons will be coming from all directions. > A la Olber's Paradox, these emanations cannot > travel infinitely or there would be an infinite amount of energy > coming at us from all sides. But they travel a long, > long way, so there will be more coming from any one > direction than is coming from any matter in that direction. > These emanations are absorbed by the nuclei, > imparting a push, but not by the electrons > themselves. > > Likewise, the electrons' electrons are emanating at a > much higher frequency/smaller amplitude. Emanations from > the electrons travel at about 30 times c. Emanations from > the electrons' electrons travel at 30 times 30 times c. > These and yet higher frequencies must be coming from all > sides in absolutely huge numbers, lending such a > system to a push gravity in layers, where the layer > affecting us does not affect our electrons. Yet it is electrons > just like ours that made the radiations that push on our nuclei > and create inertia. > > john- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: NoEinstein on 23 Feb 2010 10:50 On Feb 21, 12:17 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 20, 8:54 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 12:52 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > Indeed, since a force is a net pressure, it is ALWAYS a push. > > > A "force of attraction" is a push TOWARD the causative agent. > > > A "force of repulsion" is a push AWAY from the causative agent. > > > Since a g-field is a density gradient, it is always centered on > > > "the causative agent', which is the matter-unit that causes it to > > > exist. > > > Everything is push. Sometimes it comes to shove. > > > Electrons are just like galactic arms; they > > emanate just like millions of suns, but at > > much higher frequency.. > > There is universe forever in all directions > > with matter just like ours, so the emanations from > > electrons will be coming from all directions. > > A la Olber's Paradox, these emanations cannot > > travel infinitely or there would be an infinite amount of energy > > coming at us from all sides. But they travel a long, > > long way, so there will be more coming from any one > > direction than is coming from any matter in that direction. > > Although electrons CAUSE light waves to come into existence > and propagate at c, no electrons travel further than about 1 > wave-length. The reason that light undergoes a red-shift as > it travels through hydrogen-filled space is that a Compton effect > occurs per H atom it passes. > > > These emanations are absorbed by the nuclei, > > imparting a push, but not by the electrons themselves. > > When an electron flies out of an atom it has a quantity of action > of h = 2pirmc', in which r is the radius of its orbit in an atom, > m is its weight therein, and c' is its orbital speed. When light- > waves > transit an atom whose internal structural pattern happens to fit, the > quantity of energy-is-the-ability-to-do-work so absorbed will be > e = hf, where f is the frequency=number-of-waves-per-second. > > > Likewise, the electrons' electrons are emanating at a > > much higher frequency/smaller amplitude. Emanations from > > the electrons travel at about 30 times c. Emanations from > > the electrons' electrons travel at 30 times 30 times c. > > Nothing travels faster than the speed of em waves; which move > at c = 1 unit-length per second, where a unit-length is a specific > amount of matter rather than a number of meters. > > > These and yet higher frequencies must be coming from all > > sides in absolutely huge numbers, lending such a > > system to a push gravity in layers, where the layer > > affecting us does not affect our electrons. > > Although a g-field-is-a-density-gradient DOES come in layers, > the layer affecting us affects everything embedded in, thus part of, > that gradient. > > > Yet it is electrons just like ours that made the radiations > > that push on our nuclei and create inertia. > > No, John, the g-force doesn't come from a push against > atomic nuclei. It arises INSIDE each such nucleus, as a > net pressure-is-a-push in the direction of greater resistance > by the mass-is-a-quantity-of-matter per responding nucleus. > As to inertia, that doesn't come from radiation-against- > atomic-nuclei either. It is the weight-in-grams of a mass > times its speed wrt an object it happens to hit. > > glird- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear glird: You've got answerssometimes more complex than nature manifeststo much of science. Don't get lost in the "internal", or inside atoms, math. It is the ETHER from which all energy derives, not electrons. Think of electrons as being the banked-up IOTAs in the rings of valence. They are like a wave (ocean) about to break, but being pushed in a constant circle. I copy below my apt reply to "John": Dear John: The Universe is a finite bubble of ether (and matter made from ether). The bubble is bounded by a magnetic meniscus which forms the longest continuous lines of (push) force in the Universe. Magnetic flux is vulnerable to having the lines broken by strong photon emissions. That's why magnetic flux tends to concentrate near massive objects. There, the lines "stake out" locations around which the light must pass. Electrons aren't the creative source of photons. Since electrons have no mass they are incapable of giving off photons. The valence rings in which the electrons orbit CAN give of photons. There are only so many IOTAs that can be pushed around inside each valence ring. When an outside light source has a frequency matching the valence ring, the excess energy corresponding to that ring throws off corresponding photons. The latter is the re emission of photonssometimes wrongly referred to as... reflections, but 1/2 phase out of step. Neither gravity nor electromotive forces will have "influence" over universal distances, except for the meniscuses bounding the ether (also the Swiss Cheese void between galaxies). NoEinstein
From: john on 23 Feb 2010 14:32 On Feb 23, 9:14 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Feb 20, 9:39 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: Your mind is like... GLUE; once you get > the wrong information you're stuck! NE > I went round and round with PD years agao. Still do. Electrons radiate magnetism in all directions. Most bodies of matter have lots of electrons, and these create magnetism that radiates outward in all directions. This creates a pressure, or push. But there is so much matter in all directions, that there is more pressure towards a body's center than away. This is gravity. When electrons are moved in a circle, they radiate at right-angles to that circle, creating less push to counter gravity in one direction, while augmenting it in the other.
From: glird on 24 Feb 2010 16:45 On Feb 23, 10:20 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Feb 20, 1:52 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 19, 8:33 pm, NoEinstein aka Androcles etc wrote: > > > > On Feb 18, 12:01 pm, john parker aka Androcles etc wrote: > > > > > john- Hide quoted text - > > > > Bravo! NoEinstein > > > Boo to both one of you, even though we both agree that a > > g-force is a push, not a pull. Indeed, since a force is a > > net pressure, it is ALWAYS a push. > > A "force of attraction" is a push TOWARD the causative agent. > > A "force of repulsion" is a push AWAY from the causative agent. > > Since a g-field is a density gradient, it is always centered on > > "the causative agent', which is the matter-unit that causes it to > > exist. > > > glird > > Dear glird: "Boo to both one of you..." ? Are you agreeing with me > or booing me? NoEinstein Yes.
From: BURT on 24 Feb 2010 16:49
On Feb 24, 1:45 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 23, 10:20 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 20, 1:52 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 19, 8:33 pm, NoEinstein aka Androcles etc wrote: > > > > > On Feb 18, 12:01 pm, john parker aka Androcles etc wrote: > > > > > > john- Hide quoted text - > > > > > Bravo! NoEinstein > > > > Boo to both one of you, even though we both agree that a > > > g-force is a push, not a pull. Indeed, since a force is a > > > net pressure, it is ALWAYS a push. > > > A "force of attraction" is a push TOWARD the causative agent. > > > A "force of repulsion" is a push AWAY from the causative agent. > > > Since a g-field is a density gradient, it is always centered on > > > "the causative agent', which is the matter-unit that causes it to > > > exist. > > > > glird > > > Dear glird: "Boo to both one of you..." ? Are you agreeing with me > > or booing me? NoEinstein > > Yes.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Did you know that making things up is tantamount to lying? Micth Raemsch |