From: T i m on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:56:57 +0000, Tim Streater
<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

>On 11/02/2010 20:00, T i m wrote:
>
>> Luckily, all my real computers have real serial ports (including the
>> ASROCK ATOM 330 A330GC S/V/L MINI-ITX board I've just bought. You
>> never know when they might come in handy eh!) ;-)
>
>You could say the same about a penny-farthing bicycle, too.

You might, I wouldn't. The penny farthing isn't 'useful in the same
way a serial port would be to Jaimie right now.

In a similar vein the 'std' VGA port is also 'handy' and something I
took for granted till I starting playing with Macs.

> Me, I found
>myself a USB-serial cable and it worked fine for connecting from an
>iBook to a router serial port, the few times I needed it.

You were lucky then.

I just plug a straight cable in the back (or not as in the case of my
Palm Pilot, Garmin GPS V, Kantronics KPC3 TNC, the Kenwood PMR
programming interface and several other bits of 'comms' related kit
and this Mini). ;-(

Serial is still alive in the comms, machine automation and POS world
and that's where you generally find PCs not Macs.

Cheers, T i m
From: T i m on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:40:22 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:


>
>(Ye olde LCIII might have one as well, I've not looked at it for some
>years now. Probably not RS-232 though - RS-422 rings a bell)

Seems likely looking at the chart you linked to earlier and knowing
Apple (even from the selection I have here).
>
>So I certainly *could* rig up one of those machines to do this, but
>frankly that's a ridiculous waste of my time, and particularly house
>space leaving it set up.

Yup.

> I'd rather pay for an adapter to use it with
>my normal machine, this 'ere Mini.

As I would (will) have to do if I ever need such regularly on my daily
desktop machine (this Mini). However for the odd connection we have
enough active PC's and laptops with serial ports within a few paces to
save the money, time and effort experimenting. ;-)

T i m




From: Elliott Roper on
In article <lg09n51ksbu2m83tre5v9l9fokcivcfhl1(a)4ax.com>, Jaimie
Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:16:23 +0000, Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>
> wrote:

> >I have got one of those. Not yet tried it in SL. It has worked fine in
> >everything up to now. I'll be trying it out for Geotagging my photos in
> >Aperture 3 when *that* arrives.
>
> What what? Do you really mean you'll be GPS tagging the pics after the
> fact, or am I miscomprehending?
No, you are not. Aperture 3 is supposed to do what a number of 3rd
party trackers do but badly. It will match a timestamped GPS log with
the timestamps on your pictures and add the Lat Long to their EXIF
data.
It remains to be seen if it is any good. Of course it is only useful if
the GPS and the camera are together when the shutter operates.

You *can* buy add-ons for the camera to do the whole job, but where's
the fun in that?
>
> >Does it have to be waterproof? Not even its mum thinks it is waterproof.
>
> Heh. No, it's a land-based activity. Slurping the data uses the same
> pins that sense "I'm under water" though, which is tidy.

Ha! my turn to miscomprehend.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:46:27 +0000, Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>
wrote:

>In article <lg09n51ksbu2m83tre5v9l9fokcivcfhl1(a)4ax.com>, Jaimie
>Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:16:23 +0000, Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>
>> >I have got one of those. Not yet tried it in SL. It has worked fine in
>> >everything up to now. I'll be trying it out for Geotagging my photos in
>> >Aperture 3 when *that* arrives.
>>
>> What what? Do you really mean you'll be GPS tagging the pics after the
>> fact, or am I miscomprehending?
>
>No, you are not. Aperture 3 is supposed to do what a number of 3rd
>party trackers do but badly. It will match a timestamped GPS log with
>the timestamps on your pictures and add the Lat Long to their EXIF
>data.

Ooooh. That's rather neat.

>It remains to be seen if it is any good. Of course it is only useful if
>the GPS and the camera are together when the shutter operates.
>
>You *can* buy add-ons for the camera to do the whole job, but where's
>the fun in that?

I keep being tempted by those GPS-inna-SDcard things, but instead I
just try to remember to take a snap with the iPhone at the same time
as pics from the real camera, then match'em up later. A little dull,
but cheap.

>> >Does it have to be waterproof? Not even its mum thinks it is waterproof.
>>
>> Heh. No, it's a land-based activity. Slurping the data uses the same
>> pins that sense "I'm under water" though, which is tidy.
>
>Ha! my turn to miscomprehend.

Consumer electronics *really* don't do well under pressure (let alone
in salt water!) - it's not the electronics themselves that are in
trouble, but the physical interface, and casing crush risks in
general.

I got one of those light-duty underwater camera bags for my
point'n'shoot for the dive holiday, and after taking it snorkelling a
couple of times with great success I took it on a shallow dive down to
16 metres - with no luck at all. The compression shrink-wrapped the
bag to the camera, disallowed both full lens extension (causing an
error) and also pressing all the buttons down. Fortunately the camera
survived the ordeal and was back to normal at the surface, but I now
understand why the 30 meter depth hard case costs 30% more than the
camera... Live and learn. I would have worked it out if I'd bothered
to think before hand, too.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
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in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know
there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person. -- P J O'Rourke
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:22:30 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

>I keep being tempted by those GPS-inna-SDcard things,

Huh. Which apparently don't exist. I though Eye-Fi did one, but it
turns out to be wifi and the SkyHook database instead. Not much use
for t'Yorkshire Moors piccies.

Mind you, I rather like this wee GPS box that does the same geotagging
effort as Aperture 3 when you stick your camera SD card into it.
http://www.atpinc.com/p2-4a.php?sn=00000257

Cheers - Jaimie
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around on the floor for old SF mags, not stretching up to the top shelf
for pornography... As an aside, Douglas Adams is quite tall.
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