From: zoara on
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That's anno domine nineteen thousand and sixty two - five years
> > > before
> > > I
> > > was bloody born and I'm nearly 43!
> >
> > If you really were born 17,057 years in the future, then I have a
> > very
> > important question for you.
> >
> > Were jetpacks worth waiting for?
>
> And I guess we eventually manage time travel, at least once.
> Do you think Rowland's been sent back as a scout, a prophet, a warning
> or a threat?
>

Yes.

-zoara-


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From: Rowland McDonnell on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
> > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's anno domine nineteen thousand and sixty two - five years
> > > > before
> > > > I
> > > > was bloody born and I'm nearly 43!
> > >
> > > If you really were born 17,057 years in the future, then I have a
> > > very
> > > important question for you.
> > >
> > > Were jetpacks worth waiting for?
> >
> > And I guess we eventually manage time travel, at least once.
> > Do you think Rowland's been sent back as a scout, a prophet, a warning
> > or a threat?
> >
>
> Yes.

Time is a lopp.

Rolland.



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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Was that anything to do with the most awesome air traffic control system
> > in all of Africa?
>
> What; the one that relies on the 'the sky is big and aeroplanes are
> small' principle? Which, in Africa, is fairly sound...

There's a man who's never heard of air routes.

Africa is big and aeroplanes are small, and people are smaller still.
Best not to lose 'em in Africa - easily done without air traffic control
working.

But when have African rulers ever given a damn about a few deaths?

<shrug> Just so long as it doesn't get in the way of the Mercs...

Rowland.

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From: Peter Ceresole on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> > What; the one that relies on the 'the sky is big and aeroplanes are
> > small' principle? Which, in Africa, is fairly sound...
>
> There's a man who's never heard of air routes.

Well... Waiting for a flight at Veranasi, I've sat in the tower with the
airport manager; no radar coverage, just one person for most of the
time... It's smack under the airway that goes from Europe to the far
East, with a flight maybe every few minutes. It's all done by procedural
handling, by radio, and by separating the aircraft as they enter the
local airspace. By height if they're a bit close or converging, but
mainly checking that they're separated adequately as they enter and
announce themselves. The pilots are informed about who's ahead of them
and how many minutes behind they are. They check themselves too, from
what they have been told on the last sector they traversed. 'Speedbird
301. Thank you Veranasi. That is a very *interesting* separation'. But
it seemed to work rather well, as the controller was intelligent and
relaxed and there was no more traffic than he could handle.

It really wasn't at all crowded, and Africa has less traffic than India.
Of course the small fry aviate about all over the place and are under
very little control, if any. But they don't use airways so the densities
are very low, and when they approach an airfield, which is the only
place that densities might get serious, they contact the tower. During
South African sanctions there were ghosts like the unmarked and
unregistered DC8s of Afretair which delivered Cape pilchards to
countries which were deeply hostile to South Africa, so you'd find South
African delicacies in the market at Kinshasa even though they were
technically at war. But those aircraft too used procedural handling;
they knew the controllers, who knew them, and they had a lot of
practice. The planes looked odd; white over all, no registration marks
at all, not even a small one on the tail fin.

Of course it does depend on the flights reporting in as they enter the
sector, but most midairs aren't in Africa or India, but in radar
controlled airspace where the density of traffic is enormously greater,
and the main cause seems to be controller error and/or misunderstanding
between pilots and controllers. But really, it's all about traffic
densities.
--
Peter
From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > No, you go into a shop, ask for a transistor by model. They say they
> > don't really work with model numbers, so you ask for NPN, half watt, hfe
> > >100, TO18. They smile and call to a guy in the back room and the guy
> > looks round, brings you some transistors, they test them and give them
> > to you (they are obviously second hand). The back room is full of broken
> > radios, phones, tvs etc, with a group of people desoldering componants.
> >
> > Its a slightly different world, but it seemed to work fine when you are
> > used to it!
>
> That's not so very different to electronics shops I've been into in
> Blighty, you know.

Ahh, I have never been into a electronics shop where the stuff wasn't
new.


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