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From: Nico Coesel on 23 Dec 2009 17:31 Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> On Dec 23, 9:08 am, F Murtz <hagg...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> Tim Williams wrote: >>>> "Robert Baer"<robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote in message >>>> news:DsqdnXVJALlhfazWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d(a)posted.localnet... >>>>> Try Clorox (diluted, natch)... >>>> Vics Vapo-rub. >>>> Tim >>> Ti tree oil >>> (melaleuca oil. >> >> Yeah, tea tree oil. Safe, cheap, mild, and potent. Trader Joe's has >> it in the cosmetics area. >> >> There are a few tricks to using it. The infection lives in the nail >> and nail bed itself. For success, treatment must continue until _all_ >> the infected material grows out, i.e. totally a new toe nail grows >> in. That means from 9 months to almost a year. >> >> I cured a toe nail by >> a) filing the exposed flat of it almost paper thin. That doesn't >> hurt, removes a bunch of infected material, and leaves a porous >> surface that the tea tree oil can penetrate. That's important, so it >> can get to the bed. >> b) one tiny drop applied with a toothpick, once or twice a day. >> c) when the filed, infected part of the nail has grown out and is >> fully replaced with clean new nail, you're done. Enjoy. >> >> Beats the heck out of taking a systemic poison, a pill to poison your >> whole body just to zap that one little nuisance under your nail. Indeed hard to kill. It you are unlucky it may take 2 or 3 years before you get to the really strong stuff. >My toe nail just dropped off eventually. >Got a new one growing out now. It will take 1.5 year before it is completely grown. My toe nail had an accident last year (had to pull the remains out). >Any particular reason we need toenails? To proof we evolved from monkeys not Adam & Eve :-) -- Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply indicates you are not using the right tools... "If it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!" --------------------------------------------------------------
From: D from BC on 23 Dec 2009 17:36 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:52:28 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Dec 23, 2:05�pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:48:02 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com >> wrote: > > >> >I cured a toe nail by >> > � a) filing the exposed flat of it almost paper thin. �That doesn't >> >hurt, removes a bunch of infected material, and leaves a porous >> >surface that the tea tree oil can penetrate. �That's important, so it >> >can get to the bed. >> > � b) one tiny drop applied with a toothpick, once or twice a day. >> > � c) when the filed, infected part of the nail has grown out and is >> >fully replaced with clean new nail, you're done. �Enjoy. >> >> >Beats the heck out of taking a systemic poison, a pill to poison your >> >whole body just to zap that one little nuisance under your nail. >> >> Maybe UV works faster. >> I'm guessing that if the UV light is powerful enough it can penetrate >> through the nail to the nail bed. > >If it were or could, you'd expect to see people sunburned under their >toenails wouldn't you? Good point.. Oh it's gets tricky now.. In that case: I don't expect a nail to be 100% absorptive to UV. With enough UV power, the penetration depth might make it to the nail bed. Only problem is that surrounding toe skin will get burned. A fix would be to zinc cover the toe skin and only LED UV expose the nail. > >> If the toenail UV exposure is comparable to the amount of UV a person >> gets from being in the sun, then imo it's a matched risk. >> People get their face blasted by UV from the sun but toes are often >> covered by shoes. >> imo skin cancer on the face is more probable than skin cancer on the >> nail bed. > >Nail fungus is hard to kill. I read today that the drugs take 3-6 >months, and only have a 50% success rate. A bikini model worst nightmare I suppose.
From: D from BC on 23 Dec 2009 17:46 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:19:39 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> On Dec 23, 9:08 am, F Murtz <hagg...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> Tim Williams wrote: >>>> "Robert Baer"<robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote in message >>>> news:DsqdnXVJALlhfazWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d(a)posted.localnet... >>>>> Try Clorox (diluted, natch)... >>>> Vics Vapo-rub. >>>> Tim >>> Ti tree oil >>> (melaleuca oil. >> >> Yeah, tea tree oil. Safe, cheap, mild, and potent. Trader Joe's has >> it in the cosmetics area. >> >> There are a few tricks to using it. The infection lives in the nail >> and nail bed itself. For success, treatment must continue until _all_ >> the infected material grows out, i.e. totally a new toe nail grows >> in. That means from 9 months to almost a year. >> >> I cured a toe nail by >> a) filing the exposed flat of it almost paper thin. That doesn't >> hurt, removes a bunch of infected material, and leaves a porous >> surface that the tea tree oil can penetrate. That's important, so it >> can get to the bed. >> b) one tiny drop applied with a toothpick, once or twice a day. >> c) when the filed, infected part of the nail has grown out and is >> fully replaced with clean new nail, you're done. Enjoy. >> >> Beats the heck out of taking a systemic poison, a pill to poison your >> whole body just to zap that one little nuisance under your nail. > >My toe nail just dropped off eventually. >Got a new one growing out now. >Any particular reason we need toenails? If I were a caveman, I'd let my toenails grow, sharpen them with rocks and I'd be able to kick holes in animals that attack me. :P Here's a goofy guess: Only 6 to 8% of the population have nail fungus due to Darwinian evolution. Those with the strongest nails survived and most of the fungus people died off cause they couldn't defend themselves without strong pointy toe and finger nails. :P
From: krw on 23 Dec 2009 19:06 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:46:16 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:19:39 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax ><dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >>> On Dec 23, 9:08 am, F Murtz <hagg...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> Tim Williams wrote: >>>>> "Robert Baer"<robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:DsqdnXVJALlhfazWnZ2dnUVZ_upi4p2d(a)posted.localnet... >>>>>> Try Clorox (diluted, natch)... >>>>> Vics Vapo-rub. >>>>> Tim >>>> Ti tree oil >>>> (melaleuca oil. >>> >>> Yeah, tea tree oil. Safe, cheap, mild, and potent. Trader Joe's has >>> it in the cosmetics area. >>> >>> There are a few tricks to using it. The infection lives in the nail >>> and nail bed itself. For success, treatment must continue until _all_ >>> the infected material grows out, i.e. totally a new toe nail grows >>> in. That means from 9 months to almost a year. >>> >>> I cured a toe nail by >>> a) filing the exposed flat of it almost paper thin. That doesn't >>> hurt, removes a bunch of infected material, and leaves a porous >>> surface that the tea tree oil can penetrate. That's important, so it >>> can get to the bed. >>> b) one tiny drop applied with a toothpick, once or twice a day. >>> c) when the filed, infected part of the nail has grown out and is >>> fully replaced with clean new nail, you're done. Enjoy. >>> >>> Beats the heck out of taking a systemic poison, a pill to poison your >>> whole body just to zap that one little nuisance under your nail. >> >>My toe nail just dropped off eventually. With or without the poison? I have one that's 1/4" thick, but it's been that way for ~50 years, so it's not likely to drop off now. >>Got a new one growing out now. >>Any particular reason we need toenails? > >If I were a caveman, I'd let my toenails grow, sharpen them with rocks >and I'd be able to kick holes in animals that attack me. :P An ingrown nail may have cost you your life. >Here's a goofy guess: >Only 6 to 8% of the population have nail fungus due to Darwinian >evolution. >Those with the strongest nails survived and most of the fungus people >died off cause they couldn't defend themselves without strong pointy >toe and finger nails. :P Goffy doesn't even start...
From: Jim Yanik on 23 Dec 2009 19:21
D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in news:9m55j55gj10padqjd6auj19cpiue9gi8cf(a)4ax.com: > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:52:28 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com > wrote: > >>On Dec 23, 2:05�pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:48:02 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >I cured a toe nail by >>> > � a) filing the exposed flat of it almost paper thin. �That doesn't >>> >hurt, removes a bunch of infected material, and leaves a porous >>> >surface that the tea tree oil can penetrate. �That's important, so it >>> >can get to the bed. >>> > � b) one tiny drop applied with a toothpick, once or twice a day. >>> > � c) when the filed, infected part of the nail has grown out and is >>> >fully replaced with clean new nail, you're done. �Enjoy. >>> >>> >Beats the heck out of taking a systemic poison, a pill to poison your >>> >whole body just to zap that one little nuisance under your nail. >>> >>> Maybe UV works faster. >>> I'm guessing that if the UV light is powerful enough it can penetrate >>> through the nail to the nail bed. >> >>If it were or could, you'd expect to see people sunburned under their >>toenails wouldn't you? > > Good point.. Oh it's gets tricky now.. > In that case: > I don't expect a nail to be 100% absorptive to UV. > With enough UV power, the penetration depth might make it to the nail > bed. > Only problem is that surrounding toe skin will get burned. > A fix would be to zinc cover the toe skin and only LED UV expose the > nail. > >> >>> If the toenail UV exposure is comparable to the amount of UV a person >>> gets from being in the sun, then imo it's a matched risk. >>> People get their face blasted by UV from the sun but toes are often >>> covered by shoes. >>> imo skin cancer on the face is more probable than skin cancer on the >>> nail bed. >> >>Nail fungus is hard to kill. I read today that the drugs take 3-6 >>months, and only have a 50% success rate. > > A bikini model worst nightmare I suppose. > > Why? who's looking at her FEET? Who could get that close? ;-) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |