From: gtr on
On 2010-01-28 18:40:18 -0800, Mike Dee <emteedee(a)emteedee.invalid> said:

> In article <7sde7fFociU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> James Leo Ryan <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:
>
>> A few days ago I decided to give Unison (version 2.0.3) a try. I had
>> previously used Hogwasher. As I continue to use Unison I'm becoming
>> increasingly comfortable with its interface. What I can say is that
>> Unison appears to be well thoght out. Yes, it is pleasant to use! Yes,
>> I'm increasingly satisfied!
>
> Does it have useable filtering yet? By that I mean PCRE support and an
> ability to filter on any header?

It's has a demo period, you can check it out for yourself.
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From: James Leo Ryan on
On 2010-01-28 20:40:18 -0600, Mike Dee said:

[in regards to filtering in Unison 2]

> Does it have useable filtering yet? By that I mean PCRE support and an
> ability to filter on any header?

Although not myself finding a need for filtering, I would consider PCRE
the wrong way to go. Instead of a geeky style programming language
interface a graphical interface with a hierarchy of "and" and "or"
qualifications, an interface that is literally obvious and quickly
understood by the non programmer, would be far more appropriate.
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From: gtr on
On 2010-01-30 03:58:02 -0800, Mike Dee
<mikedee.emteedee(a)emteedee.invalid> said:

> You also appear to be using 1.8.1, so maybe you should be trying it out
> too, before suggesting that I or others do.

I have. Perhaps you shouldn't be providing edicts regarding what
others should or shouldn't say and to whom. I simply provided
information. You are free, of course to stuff that information
anywhere you like.

> Or maybe, you don't see any need to to, either?

"Either"? I think anybody who would like to change newsreaders should
try other newsreaders. Unison 2.x is an other newsreader.

I've tried it out and have gui problems with it. As stated a couple of
times in related threads, I hotwired macros in Unison 1.8 with Quickeys
so that the number-pad behaved like Thoth. I've yet to sit down and
spend a weekend making Unison 2.x do the same thing. And might not be
able to. So then it would be another program I operate with my
shoulder and forearm pushing a mouse around, instead of my
fingers--like most others.

As to how do the filters work, I don't know as I haven't gotten past
my own issues long enough to attend to yours--either.
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Thank you and have a nice day.

From: Mike Dee on
James Leo Ryan <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-01-28 20:40:18 -0600, Mike Dee said:
>
> [in regards to filtering in Unison 2]
>
>> Does it have useable filtering yet? By that I mean PCRE support
>> and an ability to filter on any header?
>
> Although not myself finding a need for filtering, I would consider
> PCRE the wrong way to go.

The better more full featured newsreaders that are available, SLRN,
Xnews, MT-NewsWatcher, Pan, 40tude Dialog and likely others, all use
PCRE as a standard that works very well with usenet clients WRT
filtering.

> Instead of a geeky style programming
> language interface a graphical interface with a hierarchy of "and"
> and "or" qualifications, an interface that is literally obvious
> and quickly understood by the non programmer, would be far more
> appropriate.

"and" and "or" isn't "that much" of a concept to deal with. As far as
"non programming" goes, you only need to to look at MT-NewsWatchers
approach to PCRE and you would quickly realise that its not much more
involved or difficult than clicking an [OK] or a [Cancel] button (its
complexity is up to you, no more than that).

X-posts ended.

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dee
From: James Leo Ryan on
On 2010-02-01 00:39:11 -0600, Bream Rockmetteller said:

[in resgards to Unison 2]

> I'm overwhelmed! I tried the early Unison 2 beta and hated it. Still
> using 1.8.1. Maybe I need to give the released version another try?

I suppose it is the same with many applications, if one is using a
version and an upgrade with significant changes in the interface comes
along one has difficulty in adapting. In my case I was switching from
Hogwasher to Unison and understood that it would take a bit of time to
get used to things. Now I'm very comfortable!

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James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com