From: Peter Arsehole on
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:22 +0100, T i m arsed:

> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:32:16 +0100, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter
> Ceresole) wrote:
>
>>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> What's that got to do with it? (and I guess you mean 'not updating').
>>
>>No, T i m, I meant exactly what I wrote. Do read it again.
>
> Ah 'Not - or' .. gotcha (now ... but still not sure what AV has to do
> with (not) upgrading. Why not say 'updates' in general?).
>
> Cheers, T i m

T i m, T i m, you are talking to a typical Mac user and therefore someone
who is technically challenged. For a Mac user, installing more RAM is
equivalent to performing brain surgery. No, they just like to give Steve
Hand Jobs their dosh, and that's the end of it.


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From: Rob on
On 09/04/2010 23:18, T i m wrote:

snip
>
> What I built is not only expandable but silent, low power and the
> lowest cost you could find.
>

OTish, but what components did you use?

Thanks, Rob
From: T i m on
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:11:43 +0100, Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com>
wrote:


>Splendid, thanks very much! Lot of hard work there.

You are welcome.
>
>I'm looking for a silent audio server/thing that can run iTunes (so I
>can use an iTouch remote). Your system looks ideal, with my only
>concerns being the PSU/case. I'd guess the PSU is running at at least
>50W?

By running do you mean consuming? Whilst experimenting with all this
kit I was running a power monitor at the mains plug. The 39W I quoted
you was the total power consumed by the entire system when running. It
drops to 2W when hibernated (which it does whenever it can and part of
the reason I went for laptop drives).

An AMD 3000 based system running WHS and 2 x 3.5" drives was more like
50W for example (and was only 100M Ethernet). [1]

> And the case would be a little large I think - I'm looking for
>something that can sit by the hifi, like this perhaps:
>
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Compucase-Mini-Front-Panel-Audio/dp/B001UHO7DS/ref=pd_bxgy_ce_text_b

Yep, I saw those.
>
>Thing is, I can't figure out how quiet the PSU is.

The problem is they either use a mini PSU (and hence small = noisy
fan) or if you go very light,one of those bare micro PSUs (low power
and quite expensive).

> And not much
>ventilation in there.

Nope, especially if placed horizontally. The height of my midi tower
aids the natural convection and with the drives at the bottom - front,
mobo sort of in the middle and the PSU (with it's big, slow fan <g>)
at the top - back the air moves very well.

>Still . . . project for a rain day :-)

Most of the work was in the planning, Googling for stuff that might be
both affordable, easily available and do the job. I concluded I could
start with this 20 quid case and if I happened across something better
in the future I could easily swap it over.

The other thought was to use the basic chassis from an old case, and
install it in something more furniture alike, a d-i-y wooden case if
you will. However, 'furniture' would look out of place in here! ;-)

Cheers and good luck.

T i m

[1] From memory. Xbox = 65W. Xbox 360 = 95W, fairly loaded desktop PC
= 100W, 42" Plasma 200-500W.
From: zoara on
Colin Harper <colinharper(a)x.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>

> I wonder if I'm unusual in upgrading Macs like this? I think I
> probably am a
> bit.

You're unusual in upgrading computers like this, never mind Macs. Most
people don't even upgrade RAM.

-z-


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From: James Dore on
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:29:34 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:02:09 +0100, "James Dore"
> <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:28:55 +0100, Peter Ceresole
>> <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not that old, and cope well with technical stuff. However, I
>>>> can't
>>>> be bothered now
>>>
>>> Yup.
>>
>> I grew out of it before I hit 30, having built dozens of machines from
>> bits, bought, begged, borrowed, sto^h er, borrowed - some worked, some
>> didn't, most ran windows, some ran Netware, some ran Linux. It was a
>> tedious process which ended when I went all-mac at home.
>
> So why did you ever bother doing it? If you did it because you had to
> (money etc) then there's the reason and justifiably why you wouldn't
> necessarily enjoy it.

At the time I was interested in such things, and had time on my hands. It
was about the same time as my living room was full of Sun kit. When I had
no girfriends.

>>
>> Actually that's a Lie - I have a homebrew blackbox with very modern
>> hardware in it, which is supposed to be my home VM box running SLES 11 -
>> but the PSU has had a funny and keeps switching off. I am now finding it
>> very difficult to match a PSU to the motherboard. Sometimes too much
>> choice is a bad thing....
>
> Yup, choosing the wrong thing in the first place etc. ;-)

Well no, it was the right one when I bought it eight months ago. Now it
has failed I can't tell from all the various thousands of replacements
which is the correct one. Needless to say this particular model is no
longer made....

Cheers,
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James Dore
New College IT Officer
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