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From: Conor on 26 Feb 2010 08:09
On 2010-02-26 08:41:52 +0000, Mike Dee said:

> Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> Tried to get Thunderbird to work but for some reason it doesn't
>> ask for a password when connecting to Eternal-September.org so
>> only shows the local groups.
>
> You will need to find _where_ in t'bird to set your username and
> password for E-S, otherwise you will only get local (to
> Eternal-September) groups.
>
> Thunderbird works fine for usenet and Enternal-September. This is
> something you have not configured correctly (so far).
>
> See: <http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq#Login-No-Auth>
> to set up Thunderbird correctly.

Never had a problem with it before on Windows or Linux so I'm kind of
interested to figure out why it isn't doing it. I've already set it as
the faq link you gave suggests. It appears to be specific to
Eternal-September and maybe has something to do with them having, in
effect, a "guest" log in. Hmm.

--
Conor

i'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.

From: Conor on 26 Feb 2010 08:11
On 2010-02-26 08:49:29 +0000, James Dore said:
>
> MacSOUP does have a lovely thread map, but the rest of it is byzantine
> in complexity.
>
> Cheers,

Heh-heh. Seems to be the general concensus. Saying that, I managed to
get my head around GIMP which has to have THE WORST GUI of any
application ever.

I'll give it a whizz. Costs nothing to try. :-)

--
Conor

i'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.

From: chris on 26 Feb 2010 09:11
On 26/02/10 13:09, Conor wrote:
> On 2010-02-26 08:41:52 +0000, Mike Dee said:
>> Thunderbird works fine for usenet and Enternal-September. This is
>> something you have not configured correctly (so far).
>>
>> See:
>> <http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq#Login-No-Auth>
>> to set up Thunderbird correctly.
>
> Never had a problem with it before on Windows or Linux so I'm kind of
> interested to figure out why it isn't doing it. I've already set it as
> the faq link you gave suggests. It appears to be specific to
> Eternal-September and maybe has something to do with them having, in
> effect, a "guest" log in. Hmm.

This is exactly the case. I've had to do it on the Mac and Linux
versions of Thunderbird. You simply need to make sure that the "Always
request authentication when connecting to this server" box is selected
under Server Settings for your eternal-september account.
From: Peter Ceresole on 26 Feb 2010 09:34
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> > MacSOUP does have a lovely thread map, but the rest of it is byzantine
> > in complexity.
>
> Heh-heh. Seems to be the general concensus.

No, it isn't. It's actually pretty simple, because there's not much to
learn, and the graphical thread display makes it the simplest News
client of all to use productively. But it's not much like other Mac
applications. However, with that degree of simplicity, it's rapidly
learnt.

It has what seems to be a decent manual, although I've hardly ever
looked at it. You can discover pretty well anything by noodling around.
--
Peter
From: Mike Dee on 26 Feb 2010 10:24
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2010-02-26 08:41:52 +0000, Mike Dee said:
[...]
>> Thunderbird works fine for usenet and Enternal-September. This is
>> something you have not configured correctly (so far).
>>
>> See:
>> <http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=faq#Login-No-
>> Auth> to set up Thunderbird correctly.
>
> Never had a problem with it before on Windows or Linux so I'm kind
> of interested to figure out why it isn't doing it. I've already
> set it as the faq link you gave suggests. It appears to be
> specific to Eternal-September and maybe has something to do with
> them having, in effect, a "guest" log in. Hmm.

No, it is specific to "needing to supply authentication" each time you
log in or post. The setting that you *still* haven't managed to
discover, is outlined in that link above and also brought to your
attention by chris's post, also in this thread.

Needing to supply authentication to log-on or post is not Eternal-
September specific, it is _news server_ specific to those news servers
that request it, Eternal-September just happens to be one of them.

Its just a simple check-box in Thunderbirds settings that you have
overlooked. Once checked you can forget about it.

--
dee
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