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From: Geoff Schaller on 28 Nov 2009 05:27 Johan, This is actually no different to Vista and I am pleased that the culture is changing. In Vista just about everybody in this forum at the time made UAC out to be evil. How nice it is now accepted. To be Vista safe (and therefore... safe!) is to place executable code in Program Files and user data and config files in the public user data area and private-to-the-user data and settings in the User Data folder. It is natural, practical and beneficial. It also requires effort <g>. Geoff "Johan Nel" <johan.nel(a)xsinet.co.za> wrote in message news:heo9ba$r84$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > Hi Geoff, > > Agree, although I quite like the UAC for unwanted baddies. From my > experience, it is a good idea when you do need Admin rights not to install > in Program Files folder. Had a similar experience with PostgreSQL and > once I moved the installation out of Program Files it went running like a > charm. Needless to say having your data also in the Program Files > structure is pushing the security limits. I believe the same goes for VO > when you have a repository/catalog changing all the time and it needs > Admin rights in Program Files... > > Just my 2cents of observations. > > Johan Nel > Pretoria, South Africa. > > Geoff Schaller wrote: > > > Firstly, why are you restricting yourself to 32 bit? Go 64 man! > > Why waste a good CPU and a good OS by limiting it to 32 bits????? > > > > Secondly, turn off UAC. VO requires administrative rights and just > > thinking you are an administrator is not enough. > > > > Geoff > > > > > > > > "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message > > news:4b0da634$0$399$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: > > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have problems to install the VO sp3 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit NL, this is > >> what I have done: > >> > >> Clean install Windows7 Pro > >> Install VO2.8 and the sp1 > >> Run VO sp1: no problem > >> load a project in VO sp1 :no problem > >> Install sp3: no problem > >> Then run VO sp3 > >> > >> Following errors appear: > >> > >> The project directory "C:\Program Files\cavo28\Data\" does not > >> have > >> a valid application catalog (_CATALOG.VO). > >> Should the system try to recreate that catalog ? > >> > >> (of course) > >> > >> ADAM: Error rebuilding application catalog > >> Error creating Application Table > >> > >> When I reindex the Project, VO is not responding > >> > >> any idea of this ? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Johan Kwaspen > >> Belgium > > >
From: Geoff Schaller on 28 Nov 2009 05:28 Me too, except for installations of SQL Express and tools like that. Then it can be reverted to the default state. "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:006e2006$0$16935$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > Geoff, > > I'm actually leaving UAC on for Windows 7. The only time VO needs admin > rights is for building COM servers and for installation, and leaving UAC on > helps me catch issues that customers might encounter. > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > www.wasteworks.com > > > > > "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message > news:skNPm.58002$ze1.8507(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > Firstly, why are you restricting yourself to 32 bit? Go 64 man! > > Why waste a good CPU and a good OS by limiting it to 32 bits????? > > > > Secondly, turn off UAC. VO requires administrative rights and just > > thinking you are an administrator is not enough. > > > > Geoff > > > > > > > > "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message > > news:4b0da634$0$399$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: > > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have problems to install the VO sp3 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit NL, this is > >> what I have done: > >> > >> Clean install Windows7 Pro > >> Install VO2.8 and the sp1 > >> Run VO sp1: no problem > >> load a project in VO sp1 :no problem > >> Install sp3: no problem > >> Then run VO sp3 > >> > >> Following errors appear: > >> > >> The project directory "C:\Program Files\cavo28\Data\" does not > >> have > >> a valid application catalog (_CATALOG.VO). > >> Should the system try to recreate that catalog ? > >> > >> (of course) > >> > >> ADAM: Error rebuilding application catalog > >> Error creating Application Table > >> > >> When I reindex the Project, VO is not responding > >> > >> any idea of this ? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Johan Kwaspen > >> Belgium > > >
From: Geoff Schaller on 28 Nov 2009 05:30 Johan, I don't understand. 32 bit and 64 bit are the same price: both for the processor and the OS. All new processors since about early 2008 are 64 bit. I doubt you can actually buy a 32 bit processor any more. Hence my question. Geoff "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message news:4b103816$0$396$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: > Geoff, > > Firstly, why 32 bit > I had to choose: new mountain bike and 32 bit on my old laptop or new > laptop or pc 64 bit and no mountain bike. > I choose the mountain bike and 32 bit................... > But agree 64 bit is better. > > I turn off the UAC , the sp3 works fine. (strange that the sp2 can works > with UAC on) > > fine weekend, > > Johan Kwaspen > Belgium > > > > "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> schreef in bericht > news:skNPm.58002$ze1.8507(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > Firstly, why are you restricting yourself to 32 bit? Go 64 man! > > Why waste a good CPU and a good OS by limiting it to 32 bits????? > > > > Secondly, turn off UAC. VO requires administrative rights and just > > thinking you are an administrator is not enough. > > > > Geoff > > > > > > > > "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message > > news:4b0da634$0$399$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: > > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have problems to install the VO sp3 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit NL, this is > >> what I have done: > >> > >> Clean install Windows7 Pro > >> Install VO2.8 and the sp1 > >> Run VO sp1: no problem > >> load a project in VO sp1 :no problem > >> Install sp3: no problem > >> Then run VO sp3 > >> > >> Following errors appear: > >> > >> The project directory "C:\Program Files\cavo28\Data\" does not > >> have > >> a valid application catalog (_CATALOG.VO). > >> Should the system try to recreate that catalog ? > >> > >> (of course) > >> > >> ADAM: Error rebuilding application catalog > >> Error creating Application Table > >> > >> When I reindex the Project, VO is not responding > >> > >> any idea of this ? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Johan Kwaspen > >> Belgium > > > > >
From: Johan Nel on 28 Nov 2009 05:41 Hi Geoff, I agree 100%. I was merely trying to highlight the fact that one needs to look carefully at the installation. Is easy to just accept defaults and then running into troubles like configuration files etc that change a lot with admin rights needed in the folder it is installed. Regards, Johan Geoff Schaller wrote: > Johan, > > This is actually no different to Vista and I am pleased that the culture > is changing. In Vista just about everybody in this forum at the time > made UAC out to be evil. How nice it is now accepted. To be Vista safe > (and therefore... safe!) is to place executable code in Program Files > and user data and config files in the public user data area and > private-to-the-user data and settings in the User Data folder. > > It is natural, practical and beneficial. > It also requires effort <g>. > > Geoff > > > > "Johan Nel" <johan.nel(a)xsinet.co.za> wrote in message > news:heo9ba$r84$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> Hi Geoff, >> >> Agree, although I quite like the UAC for unwanted baddies. From my >> experience, it is a good idea when you do need Admin rights not to >> install >> in Program Files folder. Had a similar experience with PostgreSQL and >> once I moved the installation out of Program Files it went running like a >> charm. Needless to say having your data also in the Program Files >> structure is pushing the security limits. I believe the same goes for VO >> when you have a repository/catalog changing all the time and it needs >> Admin rights in Program Files... >> >> Just my 2cents of observations. >> >> Johan Nel >> Pretoria, South Africa. >> >> Geoff Schaller wrote: >> >> > Firstly, why are you restricting yourself to 32 bit? Go 64 man! >> > Why waste a good CPU and a good OS by limiting it to 32 bits????? >> > >> > Secondly, turn off UAC. VO requires administrative rights and just >> > thinking you are an administrator is not enough. >> > >> > Geoff >> > >> > >> > >> > "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message >> > news:4b0da634$0$399$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: >> > >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I have problems to install the VO sp3 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit NL, >> this is >> >> what I have done: >> >> >> >> Clean install Windows7 Pro >> >> Install VO2.8 and the sp1 >> >> Run VO sp1: no problem >> >> load a project in VO sp1 :no problem >> >> Install sp3: no problem >> >> Then run VO sp3 >> >> >> >> Following errors appear: >> >> >> >> The project directory "C:\Program Files\cavo28\Data\" does not >> >> have >> >> a valid application catalog (_CATALOG.VO). >> >> Should the system try to recreate that catalog ? >> >> >> >> (of course) >> >> >> >> ADAM: Error rebuilding application catalog >> >> Error creating Application Table >> >> >> >> When I reindex the Project, VO is not responding >> >> >> >> any idea of this ? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Johan Kwaspen >> >> Belgium >> >> > >
From: Johan Kwaspen on 28 Nov 2009 07:43
Geoff, My laptop is has a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00Ghz and 2,00 GB RAM Win Vista bus 32. By the Update Window7 pro (in the box 2cd's w32 and w64). They have advised me for the 32 bit because older devices have may not equivalent 64-bit drivers. But now I am curious to know if the 64 also works. From 32 to 64 this is format C: h� ? regards, Johan Kwaspen Belgium "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> schreef in bericht news:WY6Qm.58378$ze1.17706(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Johan, > > I don't understand. 32 bit and 64 bit are the same price: both for the > processor and the OS. All new processors since about early 2008 are 64 > bit. I doubt you can actually buy a 32 bit processor any more. Hence my > question. > > Geoff > > > > "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message > news:4b103816$0$396$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: > >> Geoff, >> >> Firstly, why 32 bit >> I had to choose: new mountain bike and 32 bit on my old laptop or >> new >> laptop or pc 64 bit and no mountain bike. >> I choose the mountain bike and 32 bit................... >> But agree 64 bit is better. >> >> I turn off the UAC , the sp3 works fine. (strange that the sp2 can >> works >> with UAC on) >> >> fine weekend, >> >> Johan Kwaspen >> Belgium >> >> >> >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> schreef in bericht >> news:skNPm.58002$ze1.8507(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> >> > Firstly, why are you restricting yourself to 32 bit? Go 64 man! >> > Why waste a good CPU and a good OS by limiting it to 32 bits????? >> > >> > Secondly, turn off UAC. VO requires administrative rights and just >> > thinking you are an administrator is not enough. >> > >> > Geoff >> > >> > >> > >> > "Johan Kwaspen" <johan.kwaspen(a)scarlet.be> wrote in message >> > news:4b0da634$0$399$5f6aeac3(a)news.scarlet.nl: >> > >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I have problems to install the VO sp3 on Windows 7 Pro 32 bit NL, this >> >> is >> >> what I have done: >> >> >> >> Clean install Windows7 Pro >> >> Install VO2.8 and the sp1 >> >> Run VO sp1: no problem >> >> load a project in VO sp1 :no problem >> >> Install sp3: no problem >> >> Then run VO sp3 >> >> >> >> Following errors appear: >> >> >> >> The project directory "C:\Program Files\cavo28\Data\" does not >> >> have >> >> a valid application catalog (_CATALOG.VO). >> >> Should the system try to recreate that catalog ? >> >> >> >> (of course) >> >> >> >> ADAM: Error rebuilding application catalog >> >> Error creating Application Table >> >> >> >> When I reindex the Project, VO is not responding >> >> >> >> any idea of this ? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Johan Kwaspen >> >> Belgium >> > >> >> > > > |