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From: habshi on 24 Jan 2010 09:25 Why cant you put one of these in the garden? And use ordinary air instead of hydrogen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN2Wcy2khuE excerpt The innovative and highly-efficient SES SunCatcher is a 25-kilowatt solar power system which uses a 38-foot, mirrored parabolic dish combined with an automatic tracking system to collect and focus the sun's energy onto a Stirling engine to convert the solar thermal energy into grid-quality electricity. "The SunCatcher represents the next generation of grid-quality solar power technology providing clean, reliable and cost-effective solar power to address global climate change and reduce our planet's carbon emissions," said Steve Cowman, Stirling Energy Systems CEO. SunCatcher has a number of advantages including the highest solar-to-grid electric efficiency, zero water use for power production, a modular and scalable design, low capital cost, and minimal land disturbance. SunCatcher was designed and developed in America, through a public-private partnership with the U.S. Department of Energy. The SunCatchers unveiled at Maricopa Solar were manufactured and assembled in North America, mostly in Michigan by automotive suppliers. High-volume manufacturing of the SunCatcher begins in Summer 2010 and Tessera Solar breaks ground on utility-scale projects late this year in California and Texas. Imperial Valley is a 750 MW project with the first 300MW contracted under a power purchase agreement with San Diego Gas & Electric near El Centro, California; Calico is a 850 MW project with Southern California Edison near Barstow, California; and Western Ranch is a 27 MW project with CPS Energy in West Texas. Manufacturing of SunCatcher components and construction of these projects will create up to 4,000 jobs in the near term, both in the Midwest, where SES's automotive supply chain base originates, and in the Southwest where projects will be developed. About SRP
From: habshi on 24 Jan 2010 09:54 The cost is $3000 per kw , so an average house would need less than $20,000 to $50k to become energy independent including motoring costs. Power production is within two months in 9MW blocks. Running over 25 years at least at 100% and uses ordinary mirrors And cows can graze in the shade. A 100 mile square in Mojave desert can supply all USA energy needs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDBFdbKcl84&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSl2evZxv4U&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTQ4cFn5sXs&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi0Y0Kr-_KI&feature=related
From: jimp on 24 Jan 2010 12:11 In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > The cost is $3000 per kw , so an average house would need less > than $20,000 to $50k to become energy independent including motoring > costs. Sure, after the original builder is long dead. > Power production is within two months in 9MW blocks. Running > over 25 years at least at 100% and uses ordinary mirrors > And cows can graze in the shade. A 100 mile square in Mojave desert > can supply all USA energy needs Most of the Mojave Desert is a National Preserve and you can't build anything in it. Idiot. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: jimp on 24 Jan 2010 12:09 In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > Why cant you put one of these in the garden? Because there aren't many "gardens" a half mile on a side. Idiot. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: jmfbahciv on 25 Jan 2010 08:59
habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > The cost is $3000 per kw , so an average house would need less > than $20,000 to $50k to become energy independent including motoring > costs. > Power production is within two months in 9MW blocks. Running > over 25 years at least at 100% and uses ordinary mirrors > And cows can graze in the shade. A 100 mile square in Mojave desert > can supply all USA energy needs 1. Grass needs sunlight to grow. Cows won't graze "in the shade" because there is no food there. 2. Meadows need rain. A. Not enough water will get to the land in the shade. B. The Mojave is a desert which implies that there is less than an inch (?I forget the precise definition of desert) of rainfall. Even if chlorophyll based flora could grow without sunlight, it would die of thirst. 3. Why don't you volunteer your country to pay and build your ideas? /BAH |