From: habshi on
Combine that with wind power , 20kw just needs a small wind
turbine and all our cargo could travel without fossil fuel power

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The 38,000 solar cells were provided by SunPower, which claims each
cell has a 22% efficiency rate� pretty high for solar cells. And since
this boat runs solely on the sun, there are no fuel costs. The
PlanetSolar ship has been designed to be the first ship to make a
round-the-world journey on solar power, and plans to set off in April
of 2011. At 9 mph, the trip will take approximately 140 days of solar
sailing, not counting stops at Hamburg, London, Paris, New York, San
Francisco, Singapore, and Abu Dhabi along the way.]

The PlanetSolar is actually a catamaran, meaning it has more than one
hull. This design no doubt helps the ship slip through the water with
ease and maintain stability. Weighing in at 60 tons and over 100 ft
long, with solar panels covering most of the ship, it can supposedly
capture over 100 kw of energy, even though its engine needs just 20 kw
to drive the ship.

How much does this technology cost? Oh, about $24 million. The ship
was designed by a Swiss man named Raphael Domjan, who will captain the
ship on its journey. There will be just one other crewman on board,
G�rard d�Aboville, a famous French mariner.

From: habshi on
Guaranteed food prices for farmers have lead to surpluses in USA and
Europe , and feed in tarriffs will do the same for renewable energy
and lead to everlasting prosperity

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According to data accumulated by the Japan Photovoltaic Energy
Association (JPEA), 1.39-gigawatts worth of solar panels were sold in
2009. This total not only represents a 21% increase from 2008
installations, but also the largest amount of sales ever recorded by
the JPEA.

Last year, domestic sales more than doubled (483.96-megawatts); this
can be attributed to two significant federal policies. In April, the
federal government reintroduced subsidies for households that install
solar panels; and, in September, the government introduced a solar
feed-in tariff that requires utilities to buy the surplus energy
supplied to the grid from solar panels on houses and businesses. With
the new feed-in tariff law, utilities are paying twice what they used
to pay for solar energy.

Through government incentives, solar power has become a lucrative
investment. In Tokyo, for example, federal and local subsidies can
amount to almost 270,000 yen (US$3,001) per kilowatt. It is estimated
that household and business solar panel installation costs between
600,000 yen (US$6,670) and 700,000 yen (US$7,781) per kilowatt. This
means solar panels are providing Japanese investors with an incredible
38.5% return on investment.

In its desire to lower its greenhouse gas emissions to 25% below its
1990 levels by 2020, the Japanese government is planning to extend its
feed-in tariff program to other clean energy sectors including wind
power
....

The rebate program, which is designed to encourage California
residents and businesses to install solar water heaters, coupled with
the 30% Federal Tax Credit, will allow Californians to purchase solar
water heaters at 60% off their retail price. Average rebates for
installations at single-family homes will be around $1,500, while
commercial and multi-family properties are eligible for much larger
rebates.

The program will either run until 2017 or until the funds are
exhausted. CPUC's goal is that the program will lead to the
installation of 300,000 solar water heaters in the next eight years.
Solar water heaters are more energy efficient and obviously more
environmentally friendly than gas-powered water
....
Six new geothermal energy projects came online in 2009, despite the
persistent global economic struggles. These six projects increased
U.S. geothermal capacity by 6%. On the whole, geothermal projects
take 3-5 years to develop, and if all the new geothermal projects
prove successful, they will increase the United States geothermal
capacity to 10 GW--enough to supply 25% of California's electric
demand.
From: jimp on
In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote:
> Combine that with wind power , 20kw just needs a small wind
> turbine and all our cargo could travel without fossil fuel power

Yeah, right, a wind turbine on a ship.

Been watching Porky Pig cartoons again, haven't you?

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> PHOTO ON
> http://gas2.org/2010/02/26/worlds-largest-solar-boat-unveiled-at-last-will-go-around-the-world/
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> EXCERPT
> The 38,000 solar cells were provided by SunPower, which claims each
> cell has a 22% efficiency rate? pretty high for solar cells. And since
> this boat runs solely on the sun, there are no fuel costs. The
> PlanetSolar ship has been designed to be the first ship to make a
> round-the-world journey on solar power, and plans to set off in April
> of 2011. At 9 mph, the trip will take approximately 140 days of solar
> sailing, not counting stops at Hamburg, London, Paris, New York, San
> Francisco, Singapore, and Abu Dhabi along the way.]

And there is no place on the deck to put cargo containers nor is there
any place for a hatch to load cargo containers.

Yet another toy.


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From: habshi on
You missed the main point , that a 60 tonne ship needs just 20kw of
power . Even a fridge sized bloom box can supply 100kw. And a 100kw
windmill could easily be put on any ship. A jumbo elephant weight
windmill can supply 1,000 Kw enough for the largest container ship
From: jimp on
In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote:
> You missed the main point , that a 60 tonne ship needs just 20kw of
> power . Even a fridge sized bloom box can supply 100kw. And a 100kw
> windmill could easily be put on any ship. A jumbo elephant weight
> windmill can supply 1,000 Kw enough for the largest container ship

No, you missed the points.

Your solar "cargo" ship has no place to put cargo.

Powering a ship with a windmill is only done in cartoons.


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