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From: Graeme on 16 Mar 2010 11:33 In message <1jfg8pw.1k7n7202ivislN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > The monochrome version was used on Z Cars, usually two, one showing the side > > view and one the rear view. It needed one of the larger studios (usually > > TC6) to get them both in and still have room for all the other sets. > > You're sure they weren't straight back projections using 35mm film? They > did a lot of that. They used large semi-transparent back projection > screens, and reduced the throw by using damn great back projection > mirrors, so they could project parallel to the screen onto the mirror > and thence onto the screen. Easy to do, easy to shoot the background > action. I'm pretty sure it was never Eidophor. Colour separation overlay > came later, with colour cameras. I was told they were eidophores, enormous machines that smoked gently. > > They used to store a couple of these mirrors in the props studio in Lime Studio H, alledgedly where they shot the model shots for A Night to Rememeber. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Mar 2010 12:23 Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I was told they were eidophores, enormous machines that smoked gently. Could be, but that could also describe arc lighted 35mm back projection machines. You may well be right- but it would have been odd as the Beeb had plenty of projectors, but I think they would have had to hire in Eidophores. -- Peter
From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Mar 2010 12:30 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > I was told they were eidophores, enormous machines that smoked gently. > > Could be, but that could also describe arc lighted 35mm back projection > machines. I've thought of the main objection (it's so long ago that it takes a while to get into the swing again...) Thos street scenes outside the car would have had to be originated on *something*. In those days, reasonable quality VT was simply not available- quad head Ampex machines were pretty much in the future, so it would have to be on film. So an Eidophore, needing a TV picture feed, would have had to be fed from 35mm film via a TK machine. Possible, but weird. Much simpler just to project the 35mm onto a back projectin screen. -- Peter
From: Graeme on 16 Mar 2010 13:23 In message <1jfgfyi.z2bu74l0j7ofN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > I was told they were eidophores, enormous machines that smoked gently. > > Could be, but that could also describe arc lighted 35mm back projection > machines. > > You may well be right- but it would have been odd as the Beeb had plenty > of projectors, but I think they would have had to hire in Eidophores. Knowing the Beeb they could have generically called all BP equipment Eidophores. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: Graeme on 16 Mar 2010 13:26
In message <1jfggab.xms4j11b818zaN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > I was told they were eidophores, enormous machines that smoked gently. > > > > Could be, but that could also describe arc lighted 35mm back projection > > machines. > > I've thought of the main objection (it's so long ago that it takes a > while to get into the swing again...) > > Thos street scenes outside the car would have had to be originated on > *something*. In those days, reasonable quality VT was simply not > available- quad head Ampex machines were pretty much in the future, so > it would have to be on film. I'm talking about the last days of B&W, 1969 onwards, so Quad VT was available. > > So an Eidophore, needing a TV picture feed, would have had to be fed > from 35mm film via a TK machine. Possible, but weird. Much simpler just > to project the 35mm onto a back projectin screen. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/> |