From: Peter Ceresole on 18 Mar 2010 05:32 J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > The original metric system had an independent area unit, > the are, equal to 100 m^2 I presume that's 100 square metres? 100 metres square (10,000 square metres) is a hectare. amd I see that used all the time. Otherwise, in housing land area and factory spaces, I see square metres used pretty much for all purposes. I know about the are, but have never seen it used. -- Peter
From: Elliott Roper on 18 Mar 2010 06:24 In article <1jfjluf.ir2ppo1xgdy4dN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > > > The original metric system had an independent area unit, > > the are, equal to 100 m^2 > > I presume that's 100 square metres? 100 metres square (10,000 square > metres) is a hectare. amd I see that used all the time. Otherwise, in > housing land area and factory spaces, I see square metres used pretty > much for all purposes. I know about the are, but have never seen it > used. A single plot, 10m*10m is called an 'is' igmc -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248
From: Rowland McDonnell on 18 Mar 2010 06:41 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > > >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > > >> Like joint projects tween Uk and US and one group working in Imperial > >> ... ;-( > > > >The most notorious example of that (crash into Mars, anyone?) was > >between two groups within NASA. The Brits are pretty good at using > >proper measurements now. It's only the Yanks who seem attached to their > >peculiar version of Imperial. > > You can (well I can) trill trip yourself up within the metric stuff. > > I was trying to help laddo online make a computer desk out of an old > wooden table and asked if fitting the 25cm thick worktop to a 75cm > high table would make it too tall? > > He came back confirming this solution would be 1m high (bless him, he > didn't want to point out my error). > > Of course the worktop was 25 *mm* thick and that I guess is the price > for not working in std units No, it's the price you pay for having people who don't *THINK*, who don't bother to do reality checks. erm... and was that person you this time? >(I thought you weren't supposed to use cm > or something, just mm, m , km etc?). Once upon a time, there was cgs. I think it's because of cgs that `cms' are `deprecated except for dressmaking' these days: `don't use cms because that makes it look like you're using cgs, but we're on mks these days'. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 18 Mar 2010 06:41 J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: [snip] > > Of course the worktop was 25 *mm* thick and that I guess is the price > > for not working in std units (I thought you weren't supposed to use cm > > or something, just mm, m , km etc?). > > For scientific publication, yes. Since `cm' is perfectly standard SI from prefix to unit, I don't see that that can be right. One doesn't use `cm' in science, normally. But there's no ban on doing so even in publication - unless particular publications *do* set such rules, but I've never heard of anyone bothering to do so. [snip] Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 18 Mar 2010 06:41
Howard <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Howard <Howard.not(a)home.com> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > It's not like when CDs came out first and we were all told that only the > > > top 100 would make it to Cd > > > > Who made that claim? I never heard it, and it's obvious cobblers - > > This was all the talk when CDs came out first. So you claim - but I asked `Who made that claim' meaning `who originated that claim?' I was there and I don't recall such talk. Where did this cobblers come from? And what people spread the idea around? I don't recall it. > > although low-selling oddities were obviously not going to make it to CD > > any time soon, if at all. > > I don't buy this at all. <puzzled> Okay, so you find me a copy of `Woke up this morning and found myself dead' on *ANYTHING*. It's a Hendrix picture disc I bought in the 80s. It's not available on CD. I shouldn't think you'd find a vinyl copy. Or `Smoke and fire'. Go on, it's got Screaming Lord Sutch[1] on it, that one. Hendrix's best album, Nine to the Universe, isn't out on CD. And that one's not /remotely/ obscure if you ask me. I can go on and on and on like this - with LPs that I happen to own. And then I can start on the 1960s Turkish protest songs, and the 1970/80s Soviet pressings of ripped-off Western decadence, and so on - which I don't own but have read about. So much unavailable on CD, so much. > > > and if we wanted our more unusual LPs then > > > we needed to do the conversion. You can get almost ANY LP on CD now. > > > > I've got /loads/ of LPs unavailable on CD. Thankfully, most of them are > > not of musical aesthetic interest to me > > You may well do. But that doesn;'t change the fact that the vast > majority are available on CD, even very very obscure ones. I've been > through that search and only ended up with one or two unmatched. Most LPs that have been published aren't available on CD, I'm afraid. I've no idea why you keep stating something that's patently false. Rowland. [1] And Jeff Beck, John Bonham, Jimmy Page, Noel Redding, and a whole bunch of other guys whose names I don't recognize. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |