From: Joerg on 7 Jun 2010 20:55 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >> [...] >> >>>>> >>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy >>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a >>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty. >>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c >>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious >>>> profit. >>>> >>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-) >>> Need some? >> >> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as >> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole >> thang is still in production. > > Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but > not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore. Well, mine are still good for something :-) They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 7 Jun 2010 21:21 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:55:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> >>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy >>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a >>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty. >>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c >>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious >>>>> profit. >>>>> >>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-) >>>> Need some? >>> >>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as >>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole >>> thang is still in production. >> >> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but >> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore. > > >Well, mine are still good for something :-) > >They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation. By sticking 40 pins in their feet?
From: Joerg on 7 Jun 2010 21:35 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:55:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy >>>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a >>>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty. >>>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c >>>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious >>>>>> profit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-) >>>>> Need some? >>>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as >>>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole >>>> thang is still in production. >>> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but >>> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore. >> >> Well, mine are still good for something :-) >> >> They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation. > > By sticking 40 pins in their feet? Nope, it's a 44-PLCC :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 7 Jun 2010 23:35 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:35:01 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:55:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy >>>>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a >>>>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty. >>>>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c >>>>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious >>>>>>> profit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-) >>>>>> Need some? >>>>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as >>>>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole >>>>> thang is still in production. >>>> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but >>>> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore. >>> >>> Well, mine are still good for something :-) >>> >>> They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation. >> >> By sticking 40 pins in their feet? > > >Nope, it's a 44-PLCC :-) ....won't even feel it. ;-)
From: Nemo on 10 Jun 2010 17:16
>I heard that Vishay is cancelling open orders for fets and shutting >lines down. I suspect my intelligence sources though. Has anyone >heard anything that might confirm this? I was looking for 2N4117's and 9's recently (ultra low C and leakage JFETs) for protecting sensitive inputs in a diode-connected configuration. Distributor said Vishay had discontinued them, I contacted Vishay who said they discontinued them a couple of years ago when they changed the line to a different process but there had been massive stocks in hand so it wasn't obvious at first. I don't think Vishay are pulling out of JFETs completely. Fairchild make MMBF4117/9 and there's also an SP4117/9 from some other company. But both are on many week leadtime. So I wonder if these old but good parts may be incompatible with modern fab processes, which would be a pain. Can anyone recommend a more available low leakage JFET along these lines? I'm wondering if everyone's moved onto a more modern part and I just hadn't heard 8) -- Nemo |