From: Joerg on
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>
>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>>>> profit.
>>>>
>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)
>>> Need some?
>>
>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as
>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole
>> thang is still in production.
>
> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but
> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore.


Well, mine are still good for something :-)

They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation.

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From: krw on
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:55:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>>>>> profit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)
>>>> Need some?
>>>
>>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as
>>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole
>>> thang is still in production.
>>
>> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but
>> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore.
>
>
>Well, mine are still good for something :-)
>
>They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation.

By sticking 40 pins in their feet?
From: Joerg on
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:55:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>>>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>>>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>>>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>>>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>>>>>> profit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)
>>>>> Need some?
>>>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as
>>>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole
>>>> thang is still in production.
>>> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but
>>> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore.
>>
>> Well, mine are still good for something :-)
>>
>> They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation.
>
> By sticking 40 pins in their feet?


Nope, it's a 44-PLCC :-)

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From: krw on
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:35:01 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:55:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:34:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:03:53 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See, that's where my futures trading comes in. Some investor could buy
>>>>>>> the rights to 200,000 MSP430F5513 for delivery in November at $3.10 a
>>>>>>> pop. Whoever delivers them either must do so or pay a contract penalty.
>>>>>>> The investor runs the risk that they aren't scarce and he might lose 50c
>>>>>>> to a buck per chip. If they turn out to be scarce he'll make a serious
>>>>>>> profit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course not from me cuz I'd rather stick with the 80C51 :-)
>>>>>> Need some?
>>>>> Thanks, my clients buy those. But there was never any shortage as far as
>>>>> I can remember. The first one I used in the early 90's, and the whole
>>>>> thang is still in production.
>>>> Seriously, I have some Intel 87C51FCs around here somewhere. Neat part, but
>>>> not good for much more than a hurt foot, anymore.
>>>
>>> Well, mine are still good for something :-)
>>>
>>> They help getting patients out of a not so cool cardiac situation.
>>
>> By sticking 40 pins in their feet?
>
>
>Nope, it's a 44-PLCC :-)

....won't even feel it. ;-)
From: Nemo on
>I heard that Vishay is cancelling open orders for fets and shutting
>lines down. I suspect my intelligence sources though. Has anyone
>heard anything that might confirm this?

I was looking for 2N4117's and 9's recently (ultra low C and leakage
JFETs) for protecting sensitive inputs in a diode-connected
configuration. Distributor said Vishay had discontinued them, I
contacted Vishay who said they discontinued them a couple of years ago
when they changed the line to a different process but there had been
massive stocks in hand so it wasn't obvious at first. I don't think
Vishay are pulling out of JFETs completely.

Fairchild make MMBF4117/9 and there's also an SP4117/9 from some other
company. But both are on many week leadtime. So I wonder if these old
but good parts may be incompatible with modern fab processes, which
would be a pain.

Can anyone recommend a more available low leakage JFET along these
lines? I'm wondering if everyone's moved onto a more modern part and I
just hadn't heard 8)
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